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08-26-2013, 12:16 PM
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I don't see how these guys are comparable to Mark Buehrle at all. 1. Bill Gullickson 98 era+ 14 seasons 23.9 war 0 allstars 2. Scott Sanderson 102 era+ 19 seasons 29.6 war 1 allstar 3. Frank Viola 112 era- 15 seasons 47.4 war 3 all stars 4. Paul Splittorff 101 era+ 15 seasons 22.8 war 0 allstars 5. John Burkett 99 era+ 15 seasons 21.6 war 2 allstars 6. Doug Drabek 101 era+ 13 seasons 27.8 war 1 allstar 7. Mike Flanagan 100 era + 18 seasons 26.0 war 1 allstar 8. Bob Forsch 98 era+ 16 seasons 19.1 war 0 allstars 9. Jimmy Key 122 era+ 15 seasons 49.4 war 4 allstars 10. Bartolo Colon 113 era+ 16 seasons 43.3 war 3 allstars... known ped user. Mark Buehrle....118 era+ 14 seasons 54.9 war 4 allstars with years left to play. 
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#62
08-26-2013, 12:34 PM
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Assuming Mark Buehrle reaches 200 innings this year, he will be in some pretty good company. Longest 200 innings streaks alltime.
1. Cy Young 19, HOF 2. Warren Spahn 17, HOF 3. Don Sutton 15, HOF 4. Gaylord Perry 15, HOF 5. Greg Maddux 14...he came 2 outs away from doing it 19 straight. HOF this year 6. Phil Niekro 14....1981 strike probably cost him 20 straight years. HOF 7. Christy Mathewson 14, HOF 8. Steve Carlton 13, HOF 9. Pud Galvin 13, HOF 10. Bobo Newsome 13, 51.7 war in 20 seasons. Buehrle is already at 54.9 in 14 seasons. 11. Kid Nichols 13, HOF 12. Eddie Plank 13, HOF 13. Jack Powell 13....a pitcher from the early 20th century. He gets mentioned for the hall of fame from some. 56.0 career war. 14. Red Ruffing 13, HOF 15. Tom Seaver 13, HOF 16. Vic Willis 13, HOF 17. Mark Buehrle 13 ??? The only other pitcher with a streak over 10 years, whose career ended after 1980 is Frank Viola with 10. If Buehrle reaches 15 straight seasons then it will be very hard to ignore him for the Hall of Fame. Last edited by chicagowhitesox1; 08-26-2013 at 12:49 PM.
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08-26-2013, 12:51 PM
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08-26-2013, 01:59 PM
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08-26-2013, 07:28 PM
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08-26-2013, 09:03 PM
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These are seven generation of pitchers. Some pitchers overlapped a bit but I feel all of them are where they should be. Generation1 1880's to 1890's Cy Young HOF Kid Nichols HOF Tim Keefe HOF John Clarkson HOF Amos Rusie HOF Old Hoss Radbourne HOF Pud Galvin HOF Mickey Welch HOF Clark Griffith HOF Generation 2 1900's to 1910's Walter Johnson HOF Christy Mathewson HOF Pete Alexander HOF Three Finger Brown HOF Ed Walsh HOF Eddie Plank HOF Rube Waddell HOF Addie Joss HOF Chief Bender HOF Joe McGinity HOF Rube Marquard HOF Jack Chesbro HOF Vic Willis HOF Generation 3 1920's to 1930's Lefty Grove HOF Carl Hubbell HOF Dizzy Dean HOF Dazzy Vance HOF Ted Lyons HOF Eppa Rixey HOF Red Faber HOF Stan Coveleski HOF Red Ruffing HOF Waite Hoyt HOF Burleigh Grimes HOF Lefty Gomez HOF Herb Pennock HOF Jesse Haines HOF Generation 4 1940's to 1950's Warren Spahn HOF Robin Roberts HOF Bob Feller HOF Hal Newhouser HOF Early Wynn HOF Bob Lemon HOF Whity Ford HOF Satchel Paige HOF Billy Pierce...Possible future Hall of Famer Generation 5 1960's to 1970's Tom Seaver HOF Steve Carlton HOF Nolan Ryan HOF Gaylord Perry HOF Phil Niekro HOF Don Sutton HOF Fergie Jenkins HOF Bert Blyleven HOF Jim Palmer HOF Sandy Koufax HOF Bob Gibson HOF Don Drysdale HOF Catfish Hunter HOF Juan Marichal HOF Jim Bunning HOF ................................ Generation 6 1980's to 1990's Greg Maddux future HOF Roger Clemens...He had a Hall of Fame career Randy Johnson Future HOF Pedro Martinez Future HOF Mike Mussina Future HOF Curt Schilling Future HOF Tom Glavine Future HOF John Smoltz Future HOF Jack Morris..Gets consideration and Buehrle has had a better career. David Cone...outside chance of making it. Generation 7 2000's to current Roy Halladay...He will get in CC Sabathia....He's got a decent shot but he looks like he's slowing down. Felix Hernandez...It's still to early to say but he's got a good chance Justin Verlander...Same boat as Felix Hernandez Tim Hudson....This injury may cost him Roy Oswalt....I don't think he has a chance Cliff Lee...He's got a outside chance if he stays healthy Bartolo Colon...Even with a steroid deduction he has no chance. Barry Zito...No chance Matt Cain...Possibly but he's geting lit up pretty hard this year. Jake Peavy...Too injury prone Chris Carpenter....Too many injuries Dan Haren....No chance John Lackey....No chance Clayton Kershaw...Very good chance Chris Sale...Staring out good Adam Waignwright....starting out good Zack Grienke...I would be surprised if he had a long career AJ Burnett...I would say Buehrle is better Andy Pettite..steroid deduction Johan Santana...he has a good argument on being better than Buehrle but he looks like he's finished. Cole Hamels....Possibly but I doubt he keeps it up. Jered Weaver...He's looking strong. Stephen Strasburg...Has potential Matt Harvey....Might be injury prone. Tim Lincecum...He'll probably be a reliever soon which may help his chances. Mark Buehrle will have a top 8 career out of these guys. Each generation will produce at least 8 Hall of Famer pitchers. I don't see too many of Mark Buehrle's generation having better overall careers than him. Last edited by chicagowhitesox1; 08-27-2013 at 07:13 AM.
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#70
08-30-2013, 08:53 PM
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Mark Buehrle pitched another nice game, throwing 7 shutout innings and beating a pretty tough Royals offense. He's up to 179 innings on the year and will probably bring his war up to around 55.2 which will put him ahead of Three Finger Brown and Kevin Appier. Next up is Tim Hudson at 55.3.
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#71
08-30-2013, 09:02 PM
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While I don't think Buehrle is on a HOF level of dominance, there is something to be said for being very good for a very long time. If it gets to a point where he continues to put up 10-15 wins and 200 IP all the way through age 40, then I think the longevity factor deserves a much closer look.
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08-31-2013, 12:16 AM
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08-31-2013, 01:46 AM
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08-31-2013, 09:29 AM
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Billy Pierce 18 seasons 211wins, 3.27era, 3306ip, 1999k, 119era+, 53.1war Mark Buehrle 14 seasons 185wins, 3.83era, 2855ip, 1644k, 118era+,55.2war I would say Buehrle and Pierce are pretty close. I think Pierce is a little better though. But again in 3 or 4 more years this might not be as close as it is now.
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