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Old 08-20-2013, 10:36 PM
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Default Ryan Dempster Suspended 5 Games

Dumpster suspended 5 games for throwing at and hitting A-Roid.

I'm no fan of A-Roid but I'm no fan of Dumpster either. His throwing at A-Roid was stupid and IMHO an appeal to the meatball Red Sox fans much like the crap Dumpster spewed after the Sox won the World Series (he spewed about how much bigger and better it would be if the Cubbies won the World Series, true or not, that was a classless appeal to meatball/meathead Cubbie clowns).

Too bad A-Roid didn't have a steroid enraged outburst against Dumpster.
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:01 PM
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They just swept BJs in a DH. I could see this igniting the Yankees and get them in the playoffs. I hate Dumps as a Chub or Red Sox.
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:22 PM
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It was a classless move from somebody who has been portrayed as a class act.

If you can't then get the guy you hit out the next AB it kind of makes it pointless. More so when you give up a homer.
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:12 AM
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I'm not a fan of A-Rod, at all, but I was glad that he crushed that home run ball. Bush league move by Dempster.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:14 PM
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I attended a Yankee event last week where Wade Boggs, Goose Gossage, and Phil Niekro spoke on a panel. All three passionately derided PED users and advocated life-time bans and voided contracts for users. They don't think that the league is going far enough to tip the risk-reward balance toward playing clean.

With that said, I think Dempster's act was a reflection of that from the current players. I understand that there is a process and the league is working through that with Rodriguez, but players are understandably frustrated with this garbage permeating the game. As the Hall of Famers mentioned above stated, there used to be a code in the league where organizations would black-ball these kinds of players and handle things independently as well. In a league where guys like Miguel Tejada and Bartolo Colon are brought back after repeated use and where guys like Melky Cabrera get rewarded with big contracts after use, it is up to someone to force a change.

Despite the process, the Yankees don't have to play Rodriguez - they could keep him on the DL, keep him on the bench, or release him. However, they have not chosen to do any of those things that I would classify as "classy" moves. The Patriots didn't wait until the guilty verdict comes down to cut Aaron Hernandez, and I believe that the Yankees don't need the final result to be mediated before taking their own action with Rodriguez.

At some point, the credibility of the game has to be put ahead of the circus. I actually applaud Dempster for sending that message; my only regret is that he didn't strike Rodriguez out in the next at bat.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:36 PM
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I wish more pitchers would do this to Arod, Braun, and others of their ilk. If baseball won't do what is necessary and throw them out of the game, then it's time for the clean players to take it into their own hands.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:39 PM
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It was bush league. I'm glad he got suspended.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:43 PM
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I don't have a huge problem with him throwing at ARod. My problem is that he denied it was a purpose pitch afterward. If you're going to be a tough guy, at least stand up for yourself afterward and face the consequences.
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Old 08-21-2013, 05:08 PM
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I attended a Yankee event last week where Wade Boggs, Goose Gossage, and Phil Niekro spoke on a panel. All three passionately derided PED users and advocated life-time bans and voided contracts for users. They don't think that the league is going far enough to tip the risk-reward balance toward playing clean.

With that said, I think Dempster's act was a reflection of that from the current players. I understand that there is a process and the league is working through that with Rodriguez, but players are understandably frustrated with this garbage permeating the game. As the Hall of Famers mentioned above stated, there used to be a code in the league where organizations would black-ball these kinds of players and handle things independently as well. In a league where guys like Miguel Tejada and Bartolo Colon are brought back after repeated use and where guys like Melky Cabrera get rewarded with big contracts after use, it is up to someone to force a change.

Despite the process, the Yankees don't have to play Rodriguez - they could keep him on the DL, keep him on the bench, or release him. However, they have not chosen to do any of those things that I would classify as "classy" moves. The Patriots didn't wait until the guilty verdict comes down to cut Aaron Hernandez, and I believe that the Yankees don't need the final result to be mediated before taking their own action with Rodriguez.

At some point, the credibility of the game has to be put ahead of the circus. I actually applaud Dempster for sending that message; my only regret is that he didn't strike Rodriguez out in the next at bat.
Actually rumor has is it had nothing to do with ARods current issues or the Red Sox YAnkee rivalry. Supposedly it happened because Arod big-timed Dempster at some event. He's on record as telling a few people that night next time he faced Arod he would drill him.

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I don't have a huge problem with him throwing at ARod. My problem is that he denied it was a purpose pitch afterward. If you're going to be a tough guy, at least stand up for yourself afterward and face the consequences.
He can't admit it. If he did his suspension would be a lot longer.
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:09 PM
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The Patriots didn't wait until the guilty verdict comes down to cut Aaron Hernandez, and I believe that the Yankees don't need the final result to be mediated before taking their own action with Rodriguez.
I'm no Rodriguez fan, but comparing him to Hernandez is beyond ridiculous.
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:55 PM
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What I thought was interesting about the incident was that it seemed to me that Dempster threw four pitches at A-Rod, it wasn't until the 4th pitch hit him that the umpire threw Dempster out. That might have been a message in and of itself.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:09 PM
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I'm no Rodriguez fan, but comparing him to Hernandez is beyond ridiculous.
It was not a comparison of Rodriguez to Hernandez; rather, it was a comparison of the actions the two organizations took in response to their respective player's misconduct.
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Old 08-22-2013, 12:31 AM
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It was not a comparison of Rodriguez to Hernandez; rather, it was a comparison of the actions the two organizations took in response to their respective player's misconduct.
Well first off, before we address the RIDICULOUS notion that you consider the murder of 1, perhaps 3, people simple misconduct (boys will be boys!), it should also be noted that thanks to the vast superiority of the MLBPA, all MLB contracts are guaranteed; the Patriots cut a guy earlier this off-season because they found out he had diabetes, only the very cream of the crop superstars in football earn 100% guaranteed deals, almost every other player can be released for essentially no reason at very little reprocussion to the team financially. The Yankees can't cut the last man on their 40-man roster without cutting him a check for every cent he is owed.

Now, that said, there's an ENTIRE KNOWN UNIVERSE of difference between a player cheating within the confines of his own sport to gain a competitive edge (I mean, ****ing Gaylord Perry is in the HOF despite the fact he wrote a book about throwing illegal spitters his whole career) and savagely taking another human being's life.
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What I thought was interesting about the incident was that it seemed to me that Dempster threw four pitches at A-Rod, it wasn't until the 4th pitch hit him that the umpire threw Dempster out. That might have been a message in and of itself.
Dempster wasn't ejected Sunday night
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