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Old 08-13-2013, 04:24 PM
Tragg Tragg is offline
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Originally Posted by doublem23 View Post
God, it's going to be so embarrassing for you when someone takes the 15 seconds of time needed to show that, depending on what day it is, Chris Sale's not even in the top 30 of pitches thrown in MLB this year...


So embarrassing. You're trying though, and I appreciate the effort.
Don't be embarrassed. You aren't the first poster to throw out statistics that really have nothing to do with the issue. In fact, I clearly said I wouldn't put an innings cap on him. You aren't the first poster to jeer another poster either when you don't like their opinions, so don't be embarrassed about that either.

Chris Sale leads the league in games with over 120 pitches thrown. The Sox are tied for first (with 3 playoff teams) in that category and are a clear second in games with 100-120 pitches from their starters. (see the website you referenced for evidence).
Those statistics are the ones that relate to the point I made which was "I wouldn't put an innings cap on him. I just don't see any reason to put over 110 pitches in a single game on him, or anyone else, other than on rare occasion."
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by doublem23 View Post
Since winning the World Series, the Sox Opening Day payroll has been, on average, $108 M. I expect it to come in around there.
Most salary in recent years were raises to existing players, the only FA that got big bucks was Dunn.(I dont see another wavier wire acquisition like Rios or a trade to get a Peavy like player) So the Sox will not be giving big raises to any existing players and will need a couple or 3 Dunns to get to 100M. I dont see them getting a bunch of mid priced older FA's so in order to get to 100M, so they would have to piss the money away. I never see the Sox doing that.
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Old 08-14-2013, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kobo View Post
Ok, but this organization is no longer thriving off the high of the WS. There is a new GM in charge now, they are going to finish with a record we haven't seen in a long time, and with moves that have been made so far this indicates to me an organizational change. The payroll could be $100 million next year, but I think it will be more in the $85-90 million range.
I agree. I think the Sox will take a hit in season ticket renewals after this debacle of a season and they'll be looking to make a modest cut in payroll. If the payroll is in this range and they already have about $70M, it might leave about $15-20M to spend. Hahn already said not all of the savings from trading Peavy and Rios were going back into payroll. Some of it will be spend on scouting and amateur draft signings.

So, no, I don't expect the Sox to be a big player in the FA market this winter. But, they should be able to get a couple of decent players (not all-stars) to fill some holes on this team.
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