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Old 08-08-2013, 01:35 PM
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This board has lost its collective mind. I get it, Rios came here and sucked for a couple of years. But he's figured out how to hit again, will steal 30+ bases this year, and can still cover ground in the outfield. Is his attitude the best? No. But the guy is going into a contract year and has played well (save some occasional lack of hustle) this year. Next year he's gonna want to get paid, so he'll give it his all. Is he going to be an all star? Probably not. But is he a valuable commodity that you don't just dump for salary savings? Absolutely.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:43 PM
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This board has lost its collective mind. I get it, Rios came here and sucked for a couple of years. But he's figured out how to hit again, will steal 30+ bases this year, and can still cover ground in the outfield. Is his attitude the best? No. But the guy is going into a contract year and has played well (save some occasional lack of hustle) this year. Next year he's gonna want to get paid, so he'll give it his all. Is he going to be an all star? Probably not. But is he a valuable commodity that you don't just dump for salary savings? Absolutely.
Agreed. The problem isn't Rios, it's that we have a lineup where he has to hit third.

But I guess he's not Chicago Tough for enough people. Where's the fire!?
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:07 PM
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This board has lost its collective mind. I get it, Rios came here and sucked for a couple of years. But he's figured out how to hit again, will steal 30+ bases this year, and can still cover ground in the outfield. Is his attitude the best? No. But the guy is going into a contract year and has played well (save some occasional lack of hustle) this year. Next year he's gonna want to get paid, so he'll give it his all. Is he going to be an all star? Probably not. But is he a valuable commodity that you don't just dump for salary savings? Absolutely.
Finally some common sense.

Rios is still a solid player and decent value for his contract. You just don't give up a guy like this for nothing. The Blue Jays gave him up for nothing but that's when 5 years were left on his deal and that team was bleeding poor with other bad contracts.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:13 PM
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Finally some common sense.

Rios is still a solid player and decent value for his contract. You just don't give up a guy like this for nothing. The Blue Jays gave him up for nothing but that's when 5 years were left on his deal and that team was bleeding poor with other bad contracts.
I'd rather spend his 14M for next season elsewhere.

I hope we can trade Dunn, Konerko, DeAza, Alexei, and Danks as well
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:16 PM
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The Sox would be ahead either way work a trade or let him go. Saving 14 million and using some of that towards next year would be just as good. Rios to me is a cancer to the team. The Sox will be better off without him.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:21 PM
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People want us to give up Rios for nothing? That's actually being suggested?

Pfft....

Expensive, but not unreasonable contract. Decent stats. Plenty of interested teams around in the offseason. We don't need to dump salary that badly, and Hahn has already said he's under no mandate from ownership to shed salary.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:25 PM
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Would be Ironic... We got Rios for nothing... and would give him up for nothing in the same process!
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:27 PM
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Yes, this is a good start. No, don't trade him straight for cash. Yes, trade him for prospects.

Sox need to keep in mind Rios is one of the best available free agent OFers in the next couple of years. When you look at what he's making compared what you'd have to pay the top guys, he's quite valuable.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:42 PM
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Yes, this is a good start. No, don't trade him straight for cash. Yes, trade him for prospects.

Sox need to keep in mind Rios is one of the best available free agent OFers in the next couple of years. When you look at what he's making compared what you'd have to pay the top guys, he's quite valuable.
I think this year's OF FA market has some decent options, so there may not be a great market for Rios come November.

Guys like Choo, Nelson Cruz, Ellsbury, McClouth, Pence, Granderson, and Corey Hart (off an injury) will be out there, as well as shorter-term options like Beltran, and Ibanez.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:44 PM
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Rangers need Rios bat pretty bad. Hopefully we can get a few prospects from them.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:45 PM
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:49 PM
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I wouldn't lose any sleep if they gave him up for nothing. Offer a few million in salary relief for a decent prospect. If they don't bite, let them take on the contract. 15 million is a lot to pay for a guy who has equal hitting numbers as De Aza.
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The Sox would be idiots to just give him away. He's a decent hitter, base stealer, and is fine in the field. This is not a guy you just give away, regardless of his contract. Get something for him if someone wants him.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:52 PM
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The Sox would be idiots to just give him away. He's a decent hitter, base stealer, and is fine in the field. This is not a guy you just give away, regardless of his contract. Get something for him if someone wants him.
I guess just like Toronto then too?
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:55 PM
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I wouldn't lose any sleep if they gave him up for nothing. Offer a few million in salary relief for a decent prospect. If they don't bite, let them take on the contract. 15 million is a lot to pay for a guy who has equal hitting numbers as De Aza.

Sox aren't hurting for cash, they can likely make a cash deal at any point next season if they want. Gotta get a player out of this. Too much leverage with Cruz out.
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