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Old 07-25-2013, 11:59 AM
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Only if you get a lineup where he can hit 7th or 8th. He's also a defensive liability.
The White Sox lead the free world in bone-headed plays. De Aza is the team leader in that category.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:04 PM
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Only if you get a lineup where he can hit 7th or 8th. He's also a defensive liability.
True, but you have to look at the fact that his production is excellent for someone making just 2 mil a year. We all know his shortcomings yes, but there is a bang for the buck here that we're not getting from anyone else in our everyday lineup. I wouldn't move him unless it truly sweetens a deal for us.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:30 PM
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I was assured by WSI that this was not so. Peavy is a bonifide ace! Surely this only speaks to the poor quality of general manager across the league.
Or it could be just posturing by the other GM's? Two or three GM's using Buster to drive the price down? A little media manipulation?

Also, here is a fangraphs article that explains that WSI are not the only Peavy over Garza opinions out there:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/jake-...ght-be-better/
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:10 PM
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I wonder if the Sox will trade Reed and Nate Jones.
If the price is right, they will.

But I don't think guys who are young and cost-controlled are atop their list as far as players they are looking to move.
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Keep hearing White Sox need pitching for Peavy, as 5 of their 6 best prospects are position players.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:22 PM
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Kenny Williams scouting the Pirates farm team

http://www.themlbnation.com/2013/07/...medium=twitter#
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:28 PM
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Keep hearing White Sox need pitching for Peavy, as 5 of their 6 best prospects are position players.
The Sox' best prospects isn't a hard level to reach.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:31 PM
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Peter Gammons ‏@pgammo 1h
Keep hearing White Sox need pitching for Peavy, as 5 of their 6 best prospects are position players.
Honestly, so long as we're talking good prospects, I'm okay w/getting pitching or position players in return.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:36 PM
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Peter Gammons ‏@pgammo 1h
Keep hearing White Sox need pitching for Peavy, as 5 of their 6 best prospects are position players.
Ha ha ha ha! That's really sad.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:40 PM
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Peter Gammons ‏@pgammo 1h
Keep hearing White Sox need pitching for Peavy, as 5 of their 6 best prospects are position players.
I still have more faith in their ability to develop pitchers and find pitchers on their own. Give me more position players now.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:48 PM
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What Gammons says is partially true: most of our best prospects likely are position players. Our last 3 first round choices, and the 2nd from last year makes 4. Not sure who the 5th is - perhaps the guy we just got from Boston. But they are years away.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:38 PM
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Peavy is not an ace, was not the best guy on the market, will not net us a package of prospects close to what Garza got, and it's not like I'm the only one saying it. I so sick and tired of being called a troll or even a cubs fan for stating my opinion, which is an opinion being mentioned nationally by several people every day. Yeah, that last comment is sarcastic. But with the way people are ****ting on me, I'm gonna say it with a little attitude. Because I'm not the one who's wrong.
Peavy is a number 1 or a 2 at worst. He also is a proven competitor game in and game out. Your entitled to your opinion but so am I. Since I am not a scout or GM and I am sure you are not either; will just wait and see what Peavy goes for in the trade market. Also I believe that the Peavy will have better numbers than Garza ends up with at the end of their careers; that's just my opinion.
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What Gammons says is partially true: most of our best prospects likely are position players. Our last 3 first round choices, and the 2nd from last year makes 4. Not sure who the 5th is - perhaps the guy we just got from Boston. But they are years away.
I agree, Gammons is not incorrect in this, since we did use plenty of resources on position players over the last few years. I don't have that much faith in their ability to develop position players, but they have the most overall talent out of the farm system.
Just off the top of my head, Johnson, Thompson, Anderson, Hawkins and Zapata (recent Dominican signing) are probably the 5 guys he's thinking of, with Johnson being the only pitcher.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:51 PM
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Kenny Williams scouting the Pirates farm team

http://www.themlbnation.com/2013/07/...medium=twitter#
This scares me a bit considering Kenny's last big scouting foray netted Tyler Flowers from the Arizona Fall League.
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This scares me a bit considering Kenny's last big scouting foray netted Tyler Flowers from the Arizona Fall League.
And traded away a very reliable arm in Javy.
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