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Old 07-24-2013, 05:55 PM
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I know he struggles defensively but I wouldn't give him away. 275/337/437 is pretty good for this team.
He also has made 10 outs on the basepaths this year and has a very high K rate for a leadoff man. I agree that he shouldn't be given away and for this team, his numbers are solid. However, I do support moving him off the roster if Hahn can swing it. I think it will be an important step towards re-making this team. The Sox need to improve the baseball IQ, improve the defense, and cut down on a strikeout heavy lineup. Removing De Aza from the mix is a start towards improving all three items.
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:48 PM
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I know he struggles defensively but I wouldn't give him away. 275/337/437 is pretty good for this team.
Well sure, but this year's team doesn't matter.
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:52 PM
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Well sure, but this year's team doesn't matter.
It's pretty good for most of the teams we've had over the last several years.

And K rates matter least at leadoff. It truly doesn't matter how you make the out when leading off.
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:18 PM
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It's pretty good for most of the teams we've had over the last several years.

And K rates matter least at leadoff. It truly doesn't matter how you make the out when leading off.
That's assuming a couple of things

1. Every AB where he struck out, had he not struck out, he still would have made an out.
2. None of those "outs" will be errors.
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:38 PM
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CWS have exchanged trade ideas/offers on Peavy, but teams say they are unsure about whether they want to keep him for '14. Price tag high.
Aka: The Sox need to send cash for next year in order to get a better return.
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:57 PM
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De Aza bats leadoff for this team because he's the only one who can.

Imagine him in the seven or eight hole for the Rangers.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:05 PM
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Scouts watching White Sox say Alex Rios is playing with zero energy. Even so, @JonHeymanCBS says Rangers interested.

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Old 07-24-2013, 08:07 PM
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FOX Sports' Jon Morosi reports that the Rangers have expressed interest in Alejandro De Aza.

Texas is also courting White Sox outfielder Alex Rios. De Aza, 29, is batting .275/.332/.437 with 12 homers and 11 stolen bases in 93 games this season for Chicago. He carries more years of contractual control than Rios but Rios has the better offensive track record. As always, it's going to come down to the asking price.
Surprised it has taken this long for his name to pop up. His RBI total for a leadoff hitter is very impressive.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:19 PM
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Danny Knobler ‏@DannyKnoblerCBS 8m

Scouts watching White Sox say Alex Rios is playing with zero energy. Even so, @JonHeymanCBS says Rangers interested.

http://cbsprt.co/1bOKgHu
Don't need to be a scout to see this. Dude can't even go after foul balls down the line.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:24 PM
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Aka: The Sox need to send cash for next year in order to get a better return.
I'm glad someone brought this up because I never thought that 2 years at just under 30 mil for Peavy was all that close to a bargain, like Jake and others were so willing to proclaim. Given his injury history, and the degree of severity of his lat injury, I even feel like the Sox may have got hosed a bit. I know there are reports out there that other teams wanted Peavy in the offseason, but how much of that is agent talk and how much was actually GM's wanting to give him a 3-4 year deal or more than 30 mil for 2 years is anyone's guess.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:38 PM
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Don't need to be a scout to see this. Dude can't even go after foul balls down the line.
It's a shame because the talent is there.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:55 PM
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Personally, I think Rios will get better once all is said and done with the trade deadline. Robin said sometime earlier that Rios was getting over-anxious with the trade rumors, judging by Rios' actions over the last few years, I agree with Robin. These things are probably weighing on him, and he's feeling the effects of it.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:42 PM
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Personally, I think Rios will get better once all is said and done with the trade deadline. Robin said sometime earlier that Rios was getting over-anxious with the trade rumors, judging by Rios' actions over the last few years, I agree with Robin. These things are probably weighing on him, and he's feeling the effects of it.
Dozen of players are traded every year. But Rios needs his tender feelings coddled.

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Aka: The Sox need to send cash for next year in order to get a better return.
And they need to be willing to do that if they are serious.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:50 PM
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CWS have exchanged trade ideas/offers on Peavy, but teams say they are unsure about whether they want to keep him for '14. Price tag high.
I was assured by WSI that this was not so. Peavy is a bonifide ace! Surely this only speaks to the poor quality of general manager across the league.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:59 PM
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I was assured by WSI that this was not so. Peavy is a bonifide ace! Surely this only speaks to the poor quality of general manager across the league.
Yet another quote from a writer that doesn't prove your point.
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