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Old 07-14-2013, 04:42 PM
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Default *Official* 7/14 All Star Break is Here Postgame Thread

Phegley continues to impress but hopefully he didn't break his finger.

We could have won all 3 games. Story of the season so far.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:44 PM
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Default *Official* 7.14.2013 Same old story post game thread.

Decent pitching and lousy hitting add up to another loss.
Got to give them a little credit for coming back from a 3-0 deficit to tie it up only to lose in the tenth.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:54 PM
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It's nice that DeAza is hitting, but he sure could have caught that fly ball in the first inning.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:58 PM
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It's nice that DeAza is hitting, but he sure could have caught that fly ball in the first inning.
Right on, he stopped way short of the wall. He will not go down in history as one of our best center fielders.
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Old 07-14-2013, 06:14 PM
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14-20 in 1 run games in the first half. Indicative of good pitching, mediocre managing, and bad offense.
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:03 PM
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14-20 in 1 run games in the first half. Indicative of good pitching, mediocre managing, and bad offense.
Actually they are average in pitching in most categories. But you forgot lousy defense.
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:42 PM
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Actually they are average in pitching in most categories. But you forgot lousy defense.
Which ones? The pitching leads the league in WAR and Wins Above Average.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...pitching.shtml
And are 4th in ERA+
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...pitching.shtml

And yeah, the defense is 33 runs below average.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...fielding.shtml

And finally, shockingly, the offense as far is runs/game is concerned is above average.
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:51 PM
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Which ones? The pitching leads the league in WAR and Wins Above Average.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...pitching.shtml
And are 4th in ERA+
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...pitching.shtml

And yeah, the defense is 33 runs below average.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...fielding.shtml

And finally, shockingly, the offense as far is runs/game is concerned is above average.
Reminds of a quote attributed to Mark Twain.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:24 PM
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It's nice that DeAza is hitting, but he sure could have caught that fly ball in the first inning.

It's funny but De Aza has quietly become one of our most solid hitters and his numbers are pretty impressive. In fact they are similar to if not better than Rios's.

There has to be a team looking for that kind of production in their outfield.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:51 PM
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It's funny but De Aza has quietly become one of our most solid hitters and his numbers are pretty impressive. In fact they are similar to if not better than Rios's.

There has to be a team looking for that kind of production in their outfield.
Phillies are looking for a center fielder after Ben Revere broke his foot on a foul ball in yesterday's game.
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:07 PM
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I think De Aza would be more useful for other teams at left field, but versatility is always a good thing.
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:16 PM
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It's funny but De Aza has quietly become one of our most solid hitters and his numbers are pretty impressive. In fact they are similar to if not better than Rios's.

There has to be a team looking for that kind of production in their outfield.
They were running down the stat lines on Rios and DeAza before the game, and DeAza is leading Rios is almost every category. I am not sure how that happened, but with DeAza's contract, he becomes a more movable piece than Rios.
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I lost track of how many fielding and baserunning gaffes Ramirez and DeAza made this weekend between them. Ramirez blew around first base and was thrown out in Game 1 yesterday. He came off the bag on a steal last night in Game 2. DeAza got doubled off 2nd base today, in addition to the ginger play in CF where he was afraid of the wall. It is frustrating that these two guys are the hottest hitters on the team, with Phegley, when they make the most consistent boneheaded plays.
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:32 PM
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[QUOTE=amsteel;3069360]Which ones? The pitching leads the league in WAR and Wins Above Average.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...pitching.shtml
And are 4th in ERA+
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HUH??? 15 teams in AL. They are 8th in AL in ERA. Teams are hitting .250 against them which is 4th worst in AL. They are 7th in OBP and WHIP allowed. Sorry that is average.
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:46 PM
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Decent pitching and lousy hitting add up to another loss.
Got to give them a little credit for coming back from a 3-0 deficit to tie it up only to lose in the tenth.
The Sox could have won this game with lousy hitting. They could have swept the series with lousy hitting. In each of the last two extra-inning losses, they failed to score a runner who reached third with nobody out before the game got to the ninth. Today it was a Phegley infield pop out and a Morel double play that was the difference. In the second game Saturday it was a Viciedo strikeout, a Wells pop out and a Flowers ground out.

Another way to look at it would be that giving up a two-out run-scoring hit to the opposing pitcher was the difference. In close games there isn't always one difference. I believe the Sox are done in National League parks for the season, so they shouldn't have to worry about pitching to pitchers anymore. I wonder how well pitchers as hitters did against the Sox this year compared to designated hitters. Pitchers seemed to get a lot of hits and drive in a lot of runs against the Sox this year.
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