White Sox Interactive Forums
Minor Observations

Welcome
Go Back   White Sox Interactive Forums > Baseball Discussions > Minor Observations
Home Chat Stats Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 07-02-2013, 03:08 PM
rdivaldi rdivaldi is offline
WSI Church Elder
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago - South Loop
Posts: 2,874
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DumpJerry View Post
True, but Theo was going to sign all the good prospects and draft all the good picks. That is his fiver year (or is it a seven year?) plan. The other 29 teams are only allowed to pick up the remains after Theo is done.
Sarcasm aside, the Cubs have added over $1 million of slot money to their coffers today. They'll be bringing in quite the international haul of players.
__________________
<a href=http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=3256 target=_blank>http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/v...achmentid=3256</a>

March 16, 2005 - Another happy Sox fan joins the party!
July 6, 2012 - 7 years later he's still part of it...
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-03-2013, 10:02 AM
Domeshot17 Domeshot17 is online now
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minooka
Posts: 9,549
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rdivaldi View Post
Sarcasm aside, the Cubs have added over $1 million of slot money to their coffers today. They'll be bringing in quite the international haul of players.
You have to be excited about what Theo is doing if you are a cubs fan. That farm system is going to be really, really deep by this time next year.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-05-2013, 10:37 AM
Domeshot17 Domeshot17 is online now
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minooka
Posts: 9,549
Default

Cubs have signed the number 1 and number 3 international prospects. Both young kids as well.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-05-2013, 11:13 AM
SoxSpeed22 SoxSpeed22 is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,830
Default

It will cost them.
But they decided that this year's crop was much better than next year's crop and decided to sacrifice next year. Worthy gamble.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-05-2013, 11:18 AM
DirtySox DirtySox is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Albany Park
Posts: 11,154
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoxSpeed22 View Post
It will cost them.
But they decided that this year's crop was much better than next year's crop and decided to sacrifice next year. Worthy gamble.
Rangers are doing the same thing. To be the honest, the penalty isn't really harsh enough.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 07-05-2013, 11:40 AM
SCCWS SCCWS is offline
WSI Personality
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,161
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DumpJerry View Post
True, but Theo was going to sign all the good prospects and draft all the good picks. That is his fiver year (or is it a seven year?) plan. The other 29 teams are only allowed to pick up the remains after Theo is done.
As a longtime White Sox fan stuck in Red Sox territory, I caution your knocking Theo. The Red Sox have had a terrific farm system for the last 10 years. They have turned out plenty of high quality players on their roster as well as those they used for trade bait. Their rapid turn around this year includes several rookies who have made solid contributions. Hopefully Hahn will do the same for our farm system.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 07-05-2013, 01:53 PM
rdivaldi rdivaldi is offline
WSI Church Elder
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago - South Loop
Posts: 2,874
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCCWS View Post
As a longtime White Sox fan stuck in Red Sox territory, I caution your knocking Theo. The Red Sox have had a terrific farm system for the last 10 years. They have turned out plenty of high quality players on their roster as well as those they used for trade bait. Their rapid turn around this year includes several rookies who have made solid contributions. Hopefully Hahn will do the same for our farm system.
Yes, but let's not pat Theo on the back too hard for that farm system. The Red Sox basically cheated the system for most of those years by offering big signing bonuses to players not drafted in the first round and giving in to ridiculous demands by scummy agents such as Borass.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 07-05-2013, 03:21 PM
DumpJerry's Avatar
DumpJerry DumpJerry is offline
Tom Feargal Hagen
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The hearts and minds of Sox fans on 10-26-05
Posts: 25,997
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCCWS View Post
As a longtime White Sox fan stuck in Red Sox territory, I caution your knocking Theo. The Red Sox have had a terrific farm system for the last 10 years. They have turned out plenty of high quality players on their roster as well as those they used for trade bait. Their rapid turn around this year includes several rookies who have made solid contributions. Hopefully Hahn will do the same for our farm system.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdivaldi View Post
Yes, but let's not pat Theo on the back too hard for that farm system. The Red Sox basically cheated the system for most of those years by offering big signing bonuses to players not drafted in the first round and giving in to ridiculous demands by scummy agents such as Borass.
Theo inherited that farm system. He has not had any experience of tearing down a crap team to build it up with prospects, one brick at a time. rdivaldi is right, Theo used the bottomless checkbook to draft out of slot and pick up (or retain, as the case may be) free agents to keep the Red Sox relevant. However, the new CBA guts the slotting system that wealthy teams like the Red Sox exploited. Now Theo is exploiting the ability to accumulate international signing slots. However, as we have seen over the years, international signings are less of a sure thing than domestic signing because there is less scouting information available.
__________________

All hail The Rick
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 07-05-2013, 09:23 PM
CoopaLoop CoopaLoop is offline
WSI Church Elder
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Des Plaines
Posts: 1,898
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rdivaldi View Post
Yes, but let's not pat Theo on the back too hard for that farm system. The Red Sox basically cheated the system for most of those years by offering big signing bonuses to players not drafted in the first round and giving in to ridiculous demands by scummy agents such as Borass.
Wait so Theo shouldn't get credit for seeing a loophole and exploiting it for the better of his franchise?
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 07-05-2013, 09:28 PM
DSpivack DSpivack is offline
WSI Guru
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Evanston
Posts: 28,951
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CoopaLoop View Post
Wait so Theo shouldn't get credit for seeing a loophole and exploiting it for the better of his franchise?
Sure, he should get credit for it, but that doesn't make him a master of scouting and player development, necessarily. Fewer loopholes in the new CBA to exploit.
__________________
Attendance records:
09 : 3-2.
10 : 2-3.
11: 0-1.
12: 2-1.
14: 2-3.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 07-05-2013, 09:58 PM
CoopaLoop CoopaLoop is offline
WSI Church Elder
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Des Plaines
Posts: 1,898
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DSpivack View Post
Sure, he should get credit for it, but that doesn't make him a master of scouting and player development, necessarily. Fewer loopholes in the new CBA to exploit.
He already found the next one and just signed two of the top three international free agents. I think this Theo cat and his team are pretty sharp guys.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 07-08-2013, 09:42 AM
rdivaldi rdivaldi is offline
WSI Church Elder
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago - South Loop
Posts: 2,874
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CoopaLoop View Post
He already found the next one and just signed two of the top three international free agents. I think this Theo cat and his team are pretty sharp guys.
They didn't find a loophole, they did exactly what any other front office could have done if they were unloading players. Trading for cap space isn't exactly a stroke of genius, plus they already had the 2nd most money to spend. Again, not all that impressive, just doing what they should be doing.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Forum Jump




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:25 PM.




Design by: Michelle

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Site-specific editorial/photos Copyright ©2001 - 2008 White Sox Interactive. All rights reserved.