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Old 07-02-2013, 04:26 PM
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Hm, interesting, B-R shows Flowers and Morel being Arb-1 eligible in 2015.
That was my source.

I didn't even consider Toronsco. I seriously doubt the Sox would let him or Morel go to arbitration and get a guaranteed major league salary, at least I hope not.

I don't see how Morel could be eligible next year, he hasn't been on the roster for three full seasons. Same with Flowers. He's had two Sept call ups and after this year two full seasons.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:42 PM
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Who was the last impactful position player the White Sox signed as a major league free agent from another team? Dye in 2004?
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:00 PM
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Who was the last impactful position player the White Sox signed as a major league free agent from another team? Dye in 2004?
Jeff Keppinger in 2013.

I keed, I keed......yeah, it's Tadahito, AJ and JD the winter of 04/05; all on the cheap, too.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:14 PM
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Thornton had a club option; think they'll exercise it for a potential trade? He may not be worth $6 mil to anyone, but then again, someone paid Marmol $10 mil.
I think someone may bite. I think he has more value than most people here believe. He's certainly declining, but he's quietly having a decent year. He's certainly declining, and he's not going to be pitching 65 innings and striking out 80 anymore, but he's a lefty with a low to mid 3 era (and he's actually doing quite well with inherited runs this season as well). He'll find a suitor.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:19 PM
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That extra money is not going to go towards free agents. I bet the Sox are going to try and get the payroll under $80,000,000 which they haven't been since 2005.

It will also put them in-line with payrolls like Cleveland, Oakland, San Diego, Colorado & Tampa.
Just curious why you think that? Sox haven't been that low since 2005.
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:23 PM
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Does anyone see the team trying to re-sign Konerko for 2 years so that there is a likable player on the team? This is of course up to him wanting to keep playing. These next couple years are probably going to be rough and having a fan favorite stick around could have some influence on turnout. I know I would be more interested watching games if I could continue to watch him play.

It is the only thing I could think of as to why Hahn said he was untouchable unless Konerko had stated to him previously that he would decline any and all trades.
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:47 PM
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Does anyone see the team trying to re-sign Konerko for 2 years so that there is a likable player on the team? This is of course up to him wanting to keep playing. These next couple years are probably going to be rough and having a fan favorite stick around could have some influence on turnout. I know I would be more interested watching games if I could continue to watch him play.

It is the only thing I could think of as to why Hahn said he was untouchable unless Konerko had stated to him previously that he would decline any and all trades.
I think the last point is the correct one. Konerko is injured, at the end of his career, and has a NTC. My guess is he doesn't want to be uprooted to chase a ring when he already has one.

As for the next couple years, it's not fun if the fan favorite is completely done. When the Sox traded for Harold Baines in 2000 it may have been a sentimental move, but he couldn't play anymore so that mattered little. Now, Paulie may have something left in the tank, he's not 41 like Baines was in 2000. But I'd surprised if he returned to the Sox in 2014, and sentiment should play no part in that decision.
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:23 PM
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Does anyone see the team trying to re-sign Konerko for 2 years so that there is a likable player on the team? This is of course up to him wanting to keep playing. These next couple years are probably going to be rough and having a fan favorite stick around could have some influence on turnout. I know I would be more interested watching games if I could continue to watch him play.

It is the only thing I could think of as to why Hahn said he was untouchable unless Konerko had stated to him previously that he would decline any and all trades.
The Sox will go the cheap route and name Konerko the manager to keep him around.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:07 PM
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The Sox will go the cheap route and name Konerko the manager to keep him around.
Player manager!
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:08 PM
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Great, we're becoming the next Pittsburgh Pirates, pre 2012.
That is exactly what I'm concerned about.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:29 PM
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Just curious why you think that? Sox haven't been that low since 2005.
I'd say probably because the formula hasn't worked since 2005.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:31 PM
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The Sox will go the cheap route and name Konerko the manager to keep him around.
I wouldn't be shocked at all by that move.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:40 PM
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I'd say probably because the formula hasn't worked since 2005.
And that justifies cutting payroll to those levels how?
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:17 PM
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Does anyone see the team trying to re-sign Konerko for 2 years so that there is a likable player on the team?
Sale's the new face of the franchise, I doubt the Sox will overpay just to keep PK around considering what other teams will throw at him. Give it 2 years and the Sox will bring back Konerko as special assistant to Southpaw or something.
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:32 PM
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That is exactly what I'm concerned about.
Not going to happen. It may take a couple years to right the ship, but that kind of run takes a special combination of cheapness and ineptitude.
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