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Old 06-30-2013, 10:08 PM
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I always wondered what it would feel like to root for a team that was going to lose 100 games. Turns out its not that great.

Still love the game of baseball but man is it hard to watch when the people playing it are lifeless.

Seems like Stone got pretty agitated at the end by Alexei staring out at Masterson. So it goes.
Alexei has turned into a headcase.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:11 PM
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We sat on the fan deck and had a pretty good view of the stuff both pitchers were featuring. I could tell by the end of the third inning Masterson was going to throw a shutout. He had good stuff, and well, the Sox stink. They had no prayer against that guy.

I feel bad for Sale. He was good enough to win. That's been a familiar refrain for him this year. Not much offensive support.
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Alexei has turned into a headcase.
The downturn in his career, both offensively and defensively, is rather bizarre to me. Hopefully some contender will look at his batting average and SBs and be tempted.
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Some contending team (Yankees maybe) could look at Alexei and see that he needs a good swift kick in the cheat from time to time. They have the right guys that will straighten him out. But I think if the Sox are going to deal him, it would have to be in the offseason, since he has a few years left and they probably won't get much from him now.
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Haven't verified these numbers, but assuming they are accurate, they are worth pointing out.

In 6 June starts Chris Sale pitched 42.1 innings with a 3.21 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, 53 strikeouts and 9 walks. He went 0-5.

Sale needs to get an attorney and file for non-support.
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:54 PM
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I remember earlier this year reading a story on mlb.com about Alexei's parents seeing him play in person for the first time ever. I can't help but think there might be some family or personal problems going on.
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FWIW, during the broadcast they mentioned that this was the first ever 4-game sweep for Cleveland in Chicago.


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And only 123 pitches for Sale....way to go Ventura. Pitch his arm out so we can win 65 games.
Sounds like Dusty Baker back in his Flubs days.

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Well- the good news is the 2013 White Sox maintained their 3 game lead on the 1970 White Sox.

June 30, 1970- Sox lost 4-3 to Oakland- despite a HR (off Catfish Hunter) and 3 RBis by Carlos May- in front of 5,251 at old Comiskey Park.

For June- 1970 White Sox were 9-19, 2013 White Sox- 8-19,
In the first half of 2006, one of the local papers ran a daily comparison of the Sox W-L record vs. the record at that point in 2005.

Now, 7 years later, this team has dropped so far that we're looking at comparison to the 1970 White Sox. I don't know what to say except:
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We sat on the fan deck and had a pretty good view of the stuff both pitchers were featuring. I could tell by the end of the third inning Masterson was going to throw a shutout. He had good stuff, and well, the Sox stink. They had no prayer against that guy.

I feel bad for Sale. He was good enough to win. That's been a familiar refrain for him this year. Not much offensive support.
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Haven't verified these numbers, but assuming they are accurate, they are worth pointing out.

In 6 June starts Chris Sale pitched 42.1 innings with a 3.21 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, 53 strikeouts and 9 walks. He went 0-5.

Sale needs to get an attorney and file for non-support.
For the season, Sale is tied for 3rd among all pitchers with 4.4 WAR and top-20 in ERA among starters at 2.79, top 10 in K/9 and K/BB as well. Yet in run support he gets only 2.73 runs per start. No starter in MLB with stats like that gets shafted worse. It's beyond pathetic, it's criminal.
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Sounds like Dusty Baker back in his Flubs days.



In the first half of 2006, one of the local papers ran a daily comparison of the Sox W-L record vs. the record at that point in 2005.

Now, 7 years later, this team has dropped so far that we're looking at comparison to the 1970 White Sox. I don't know what to say except:
The 1970 White Sox went 10-20 in July, then 12-18 in August- with our upcoming "fire sale" and no real prospects in the minors to call up- could be a tight "race".

We'll pick up a half game on the 1970 team today- Gary Janeski took the loss, 3-0 to Oakland, Campaneris went deep off Wood in the 9th to seal the deal. Aparicio had 3 hits off starter Rollie Fingers- but that was about it for the Sox in front of 7,842 at Comiskey Park.
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For the season, Sale is tied for 3rd among all pitchers with 4.4 WAR and top-20 in ERA among starters at 2.79, top 10 in K/9 and K/BB as well. Yet in run support he gets only 2.73 runs per start. No starter in MLB with stats like that gets shafted worse. It's beyond pathetic, it's criminal.
Sale is the top pitcher in the American League in WAR currently, and third overall amongst all players behind only Manny Machado and Miguel Cabrera...

Anybody know who the last SP to make the All-Star team with a losing record was? It appears Chris is about to join a pretty exclusive club.
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Anybody know who the last SP to make the All-Star team with a losing record was? It appears Chris is about to join a pretty exclusive club.
King Felix came close the last two years, but no dice.
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Alexei has turned into a headcase.
yea. He's still got good range.
I'd keep him, barring an offer with legit prospects, which no one expects.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:52 PM
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Haven't verified these numbers, but assuming they are accurate, they are worth pointing out.

In 6 June starts Chris Sale pitched 42.1 innings with a 3.21 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, 53 strikeouts and 9 walks. He went 0-5.

Sale needs to get an attorney and file for non-support.
He has an unheard of opposing BA of .199 , that's the stat that blew me away. I don't ever remember seeing that out of a starting pitcher in the Big League's.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:10 AM
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He has an unheard of opposing BA of .199 , that's the stat that blew me away. I don't ever remember seeing that out of a starting pitcher in the Big League's.
In the Big League's what? Chew?

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