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Old 06-29-2013, 06:39 PM
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Now he's using Jordan Danks as a pinch hitter. Yea, it may be that time.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:51 PM
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Now he's using Jordan Danks as a pinch hitter. Yea, it may be that time.
Mercy! I think the Sox dodged a bullet when Robin turned down that extension.
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:25 PM
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Now he's using Jordan Danks as a pinch hitter. Yea, it may be that time.
A lot of managers would have done that, considering the circumstances. It isn't as if there is much choice with Flowers coming up. Konerko's situation makes the bench even shorter.

Ventura lost today's game because he brought in Crain. He lost the second game Friday because he brought in Reed.
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:31 PM
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They shouldn't fire him because they think he's a bad manager. They should change managers because when the Sox get good again, he won't be here.

In my opinion, there's very little chance he wants to do this past three years anyway. Just let him go now, find a guy they feel can be there for the long run, and change the attitude of the team as the personnel changes evolve over the next couple years.
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:35 PM
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They shouldn't fire him because they think he's a bad manager. They should change managers because when the Sox get good again, he won't be here.

In my opinion, there's very little chance he wants to do this past three years anyway. Just let him go now, find a guy they feel can be there for the long run, and change the attitude of the team as the personnel changes evolve over the next couple years.
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:48 PM
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Robin Ventura is Dick Jauron.
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:53 PM
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A lot of managers would have done that, considering the circumstances. It isn't as if there is much choice with Flowers coming up. Konerko's situation makes the bench even shorter.

Ventura lost today's game because he brought in Crain. He lost the second game Friday because he brought in Reed.
You need 1 run; you leave the power, such as it is, in the lineup. Flowers had a hit today and at least he's hitting 200 instead of Danks' 100.
Nothing wrong with those pitching moves. There was a lot wrong with using Jordan Danks as a pinch hitter.
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:04 PM
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Shouln't we fire both Robin and the person who hired him?????
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:21 PM
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Shouln't we fire both Robin and the person who hired him?????
Now there's an excellent thought
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:35 PM
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This is also just a pretty ****ty team with a couple of players compounding the madness by having career bad years.

So that would be 1 successful year and now 1 bad year. Next year is the final year of his contract. I say let that be his job audition for 2015 and beyond.
What successful year ,85-77?
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:59 PM
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Robin Ventura is Dick Jauron.
The Sox most likely aren't having one exciting but flukey year as division champion under Ventura.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:04 PM
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This team is the sum of every front office made since winning the 2005 Series.
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:19 PM
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Honestly, I think Robin will leave on his own at season's end. I don't see any point in firing him. This team has a Triple-A roster, and it's only going to get worse when a couple of the bullpen guys and a couple of the regulars get traded within the next month.

Is the manager accountable for this mess? Sure, but nothing is going to change this year if someone else is placed in charge of the team. This will be a 95- to 100-loss team, and that's that.
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:35 AM
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Honestly, I think Robin will leave on his own at season's end. I don't see any point in firing him. This team has a Triple-A roster, and it's only going to get worse when a couple of the bullpen guys and a couple of the regulars get traded within the next month.

Is the manager accountable for this mess? Sure, but nothing is going to change this year if someone else is placed in charge of the team. This will be a 95- to 100-loss team, and that's that.
Agree on the talent level. But the fundamentals are woefully lacking. So is accountability. That falls on Robin.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:45 AM
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What successful year ,85-77?
Considering most of the 'experts' had the Sox at about 70 wins for last year, it was a relative success. Coincidentally, it looks like that's what we are going to get this year with a team that didn't to anything to improve itself over the offseason.

Yes, the team is bad and just about unsalvageable at this point. The manager is responsible for his part of it but canning his ass doesn't accomplish anything. I'm content to ride out the year and then have 'the talk' the day after the season ends. There's nothing more pathetic than firing a manager with less than a week left in the season. Seems almost spiteful.

If nothing else, it can't get much worse from here, right?
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