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Old 06-26-2013, 03:17 PM
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Garza when healthy definitely. Nobody in their right mind would compare Peavy to Nolasco, Nolasco sucks, it's just munch being munch.
I'm not saying Nolasco is better than Peavy, only that all things considered a team looking for pitching will grab Nolasco a lot faster than Peavy, unless we intend to just give him away (which we better not).
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:59 PM
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I'm not saying Nolasco is better than Peavy, only that all things considered a team looking for pitching will grab Nolasco a lot faster than Peavy, unless we intend to just give him away (which we better not).
bland they may go after Nolasco sooner because of his price tag but like many marquee trade candidates they tend to last to the very end of the deadline because they are more valuable and more bidders are bidding.
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:06 PM
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bland they may go after Nolasco sooner because of his price tag but like many marquee trade candidates they tend to last to the very end of the deadline because they are more valuable and more bidders are bidding.
There's only a few teams out there that 1.) need pitching badly and 2.) have the assets necessary for a guy like Peavy

While we're on the subject of aces who are injured but might get traded, lets not forget that David Price is also out there
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:38 PM
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There's only a few teams out there that 1.) need pitching badly and 2.) have the assets necessary for a guy like Peavy

While we're on the subject of aces who are injured but might get traded, lets not forget that David Price is also out there
Boston and New York both need pitching. That alone raises the market as both will overpay somewhat to compete against each other.
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:59 PM
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Other competing options on the market include Bud Norris and Lucas Harell of the Astros, Scott Feldman and Travis Wood of the flubs (who are both having good years, surprisingly), all good options that won't have a high price.
Oh for goodness sakes, Harrell is Axe.
Norris is a decent 4/5 workhorse.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:09 PM
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A team who I think would make a great trading partner with the Sox would be the Pirates. They can use an OFer and a SS and every one can always use pitching.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:37 PM
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Oh for goodness sakes, Harrell is Axe.
Norris is a decent 4/5 workhorse.
I think so too. That doesn't mean someone isn't going to acquire him if they only need a back end starter.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:42 PM
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Boston and New York both need pitching. That alone raises the market as both will overpay somewhat to compete against each other.
I'd like to see that happen, but I don't think the Yanks want to add any salary after this season. The Red Sox are one of the teams we'd be competing to get attention from (along with the Orioles and a few teams in the NL West).

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A team who I think would make a great trading partner with the Sox would be the Pirates. They can use an OFer and a SS and every one can always use pitching.
I don't see the Pirates picking up SP salary on an arriving team that has more coming soon. Gerrit Cole just got to the bigs, and they're talking about sending him back down because there's no room for him when everyone's healthy.
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Old 06-26-2013, 07:19 PM
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I don't see the Pirates picking up SP salary on an arriving team that has more coming soon. Gerrit Cole just got to the bigs, and they're talking about sending him back down because there's no room for him when everyone's healthy.
I agree that the Pirates won't take salary but for me, it has more to do with their track record than anything they have in the farm system. Time and again, they have shown a reluctance to add any significant payroll to their team and I don't see that changing now. Signing Russell Martin for $7 million per year is about as spend crazy as they have ever gotten. However, adding a Jake Peavy to their team would be a statement that they might finally be serious about going for a division title. I just don't see it happening.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:25 PM
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I agree that the Pirates won't take salary but for me, it has more to do with their track record than anything they have in the farm system. Time and again, they have shown a reluctance to add any significant payroll to their team and I don't see that changing now. Signing Russell Martin for $7 million per year is about as spend crazy as they have ever gotten. However, adding a Jake Peavy to their team would be a statement that they might finally be serious about going for a division title. I just don't see it happening.
I don't know, if you're gonna open up a rotation spot, it's gotta be for Cole, right? He's likely to be better than Peavy down the stretch. I get what you're saying about making a splash, I just don't think rotation is where it'll be.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:25 PM
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In relevant news: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/0...-possible.html

Looks like Marlins are gonna pick up all of Nolasco's salary too.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:19 PM
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Everyone talking about the Ethier pick up potential. The Dodgers OF is kind of crowded now that Kemp is back and Puig playing so well. They have Crawford that will eventually be back soon as well.

Not to mention that there has been a butting of heads with Ethier and management.

Also, Dee Gordon is looking more of a failed prospect with what he's done in the bigs so far. The Dodgers currently have a need at SS/3B depending on where they want Hanley Ramirez to play.

I don't know diddly poo about their prospects, but anything we can get will be better than what we currently have, as long as we get market value for Peavy and Crain...Ramirez has been rather crappy this season offensively and defensively. This is also a guy that hasn't been paying much attention to the season this year, so my comments might be a bit off.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:19 PM
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The other big starter out there is Yovani Gallardo
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How many Peavy comparable options are there? Honest question. I'll give you Garza, but not Nolasco.
You are right on the money. Garza is not anywhere the pitcher Peavy is and Nolasco please give me a break. Peavy is a #1 Garza a 2 or 3 and Nolasco a 5 at best. I for one hope the Sox keep Peavy and see where they are next year and go from there.
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I don't know, if you're gonna open up a rotation spot, it's gotta be for Cole, right? He's likely to be better than Peavy down the stretch. I get what you're saying about making a splash, I just don't think rotation is where it'll be.
I know your kidding right? There is no way Cole is a better pitcher down the stretch or any other time than a proven number 1 starter in Peavy. Cole is a rookie with no MLB track record. Cole might be better in the long run; but in the heat of a pennant no way.
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