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If the trade comparison is about the money, Ethier is owed $69 million from 2014 through 2017, while Alexei and Jake are owed a combined $60 million from 2014 through 2016 (Jake through '15 and Alexei through '16).
Further, the full-year contracts for these players are $13.5 for Ethier this year, while Jake is taking home $14.5 and Alexei $7. Therefore, using any likely proration period, the money in the contracts over the lifetime are roughly equal (especially with the $5 million sent to the Sox). Anyone taking the Alexei contract is certainly eating a liability, and while Jake might offer some real value over the next two seasons, he will likely not be the deciding factor in the Sox's ability to contend over that time.
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I see Ethier has won a gold glove. I have to admit I haven't seen enough of him to gauge his defensive abilities...is that a legit gold glove win, or another BS pick? Considering he's not a Derek Jeter type, I would think its legit, but I don't know. Anyone with some insight on his defense?
Seems questionable the Dodgers would be interested in trading for a pitcher on the DL, but hey KW did it, so who knows.
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As for Alexei, I'm not sure it is certain that that would be eating a liability. His tools don't seemed to have diminished, only his execution. He still makes fantastic plays and turns the double play well, his arm is still there and he's running the bases as well or better than ever. If I was looking for a guy to score from first, I'd take Ramirez every day of the week. I wouldn't be surprised if he bounced back with a change of scenery. |
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Yeah, but why are we acquiring relievers?
And saying Magill has control problems would be being incredibly nice. Quote:
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Acquiring Ethier at this time reminds me of when the Sox got Rios in 2009. Prior to this season for Ethier and '09 for Rios, each annually hit in the .290s with OBPs around .350 (Ethier slightly higher). The difference is that Ethier has a little more power where Rios has the ability to steal more bases. In 2009, Rios hit .264 with a .317 OPB for Toronto (108 games), while Ethier is hitting .252 with a .335 OPB this season for LAD (72 games).
I say this from a position of comparing stat and story lines, as I haven't been able to see Ethier play much this year. |
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Amongst the prospects here we have the Dodger's top rated hitting prospect, their closest rotation prospect and a potential closer. With Peavy on the DL and Ramirez's questionable play of late, how much can you expect? If the Sox end up trading Rios, we'll have a somewhat comparable player to replace him, numerous quality prospects (ok, I see you don't think much of Magill but Sickels had him rated B- preseason) and a reduced payroll. Sounds like a pretty good start to me. |
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Just reading an article on Mike Scioscia's Tragic Illness (the website), even while trashing Brown, it still seems he's considered to have upside...so who knows, maybe he might still have value for us too.
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Oops, I meant Gordon not Brown.
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That does not sound like a bad start to the Sox rebuilding efforts this year. |
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How do these prospects rate among the best in baseball? Is the Dodger system good? Strange that they're sending us money when they're taking all that payroll. Sox love hard throwers. Hope his pitches have some movement. |
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I don't know about the other 3 prospects, but Dee Gordon isn't much. He's 25 and with over 600 PAs in the majors his OPS is barely over .600.
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When I hear Dodgers-Sox trade, I think of the KW Baldwin-to-Dodgers trade and the Berry/Barry mess.
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And then we have to take Ethier. Rather have a real prospect than the money. Why take Dee Gordon? Looks like a Williams trade. |
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Yep. Pretty terrible.
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I have no idea where you could possibly even gauge these numbers right now.
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