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No, because I can still get churros at the ballpark. |
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2013 Sox are on pace to win 69 games- the '87 team won 77. 2013 White Sox are on track for the 100th (out of 113) ranked winning percentage in the history of the franchise. Just ahead of the 1968, 1969 White Sox, just behind the 1989 White Sox.
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TomBradley72 http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/334c0314 Players that are an important part of the rebuild: Anderson, Fulmer, Giolito, Lopez, Moncada Players that might be or could have trade value: Abreu, Bummer, Castillo, Davidson, Delmonico, A. Garcia, Jones, Sanchez |
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Ridiculousness across all sports: (1) "You have no valid opinion because you never played the game." (2) "Stats are irrelevant. This guy just doesn't know how to win." |
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Just take your time, Hahn, and get the most out of these teams that you can. Then there's Ivan Calderon. We made a great trade to get him, used him, and then flipped him (along with a decent middle reliever) for the great Tim Raines. Think we can pull that off this time around? The key to that period was great, and I mean great, trading. And for some reason, JR fired Larry Himes and Torborg and hired Scheduler and the mediocre Lamont. |
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Lets wait and see how Hahn's first few drafts go, and how his first trades go. He won't get as much for Rios and Peavy as Himes did for Baines and Bannister, but he also has Crain and Thornton to deal. Also, the Cell provides a greater revenue stream than old Comiskey Park did. Hahn also has KW to do some scouting. Remember, KW was the guy who "won" under the radar trades and signings of Loaiza, Contreras, Uribe, AJ, Iguchi, Dye, Quentin, etc. And the minor league system, while under KW's direction, produced solid contributors like Rowand, Crede and Buehrle. Therefore, I do not think the Sox are headed for a prolonged half-decade of losing.
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The universe is the practical joke of the General at the expense of the Particular, quoth Frater Perdurabo, and laughed. The disciples nearest him wept, seeing the Universal Sorrow. Others laughed, seeing the Universal Joke. Others wept. Others laughed. Others wept because they couldn't see the Joke, and others laughed lest they should be thought not to see the Joke. But though FRATER laughed openly, he wept secretly; and really he neither laughed nor wept. Nor did he mean what he said. |
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He was good at the "under the radar" trades- not just good a the "big" moves-like Wells, Ritchie, Koch, Swisher, Peavy, Dunn, etc. |
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The Sox had the #1 ranked minor league system in baseball while he was Director of Player Development.
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#9 2015 Obligatory Attendance/Record Tracker 1-2 LAST GAME: May 22 - Sox 3, Twins 2 NEXT GAME: June 8 - Sox vs. Astros |
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Comparing the late 80's teams to the 2013 Sox is apples vs oranges.. Back then, with 2 divisions, the Sox had some mighty competition with the A's and Twins Kirby Puckett teams... Today, shame on the Sox for competing in a division where the only real competition seems to be Detroit who practically gives away the division for the past few years... Also shame on JR and the Sox brass for effectively putting a complete and total end to the 05 buzz.. The White Sox have the lowest average attendance of any major market franchise, at or near the bottom in fielding and offense..and are the 2nd worst team in the AL currently.. ahead of a team with 1/4 of the Sox payroll.. The alarming stats go on and on, but I won't put you or myself thru the misery... You're dreaming if you think the current ownership has any clue as to how to fix this.. I'm not saying I have any better idea, but I'm not charging people to watch a baseball team play good solid baseball and be seriously in the hunt for the playoffs in a weak division.. |
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Boy, that's gonna put some "fannies in the seats" .. as Hawk would say.
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His fairly recent dumps of Edwin Jackson, Quentin and Santos yielded nothing. |
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B) Most of those players went on to form the core of the 2005 team so, yeah, it does |
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This idea that Kenny spent his tenure turning us into a power or nothing team is BS. First, the park has bad effect on singles hitters. Second, he tried to get both speedy lead off hitters and fundamentally sound veterans throughout his tenure. Pierre, Erstad, Kotsay, De Aza, Lofton, Rios etc. he wasn't all that successful, but understood the necessity. Power hitters in that era were a hell of a lot easier to find than speedsters. They probably still are, but I see that changing.
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KW had flaws as a GM, certainly. I think his new job gives him an opportunity to do what he does well - scouting.
Both Swisher trades in particular hurt the Sox. I can't blame management for Peavy's detached lat or his current injury, or Dunn's struggles. However, we would not have "needed" to trade for Peavy if we hadn't dealt Gio, nor signed Dunn if Swisher hadn't bombed and had to be shipped out, leaving us without a decent LH hitter. I oppose the "loyalty over performance excellence" philosophy of this organization, but that does not mean that current members of our management team don't have useful skills. Firing people just to satisfy the bloodlust of meatball fans accomplishes little. I'm willing to give Hahn some time to fix the mess he inherited. I expect he will retain what we do well - develop pitchers - and use a SABR-informed approach to make necessary changes to our position player drafting and development system. And I expect he will blend KW's "scouting-informed" influence when it is warranted to do so. |
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He was in the role from 1995-2000- if he was "great" at minor league development- then we should have had a great minor leagues system by 1999 or 2000- looking at their rosters from that time period- there's really no home grown talent to point to (other than Buehrle) |
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