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Old 06-09-2013, 01:08 PM
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In the 4-1 win over Oakland, Hawk treated Rios' run-scoring in the 8th as if it was the World Series. Yes, it was a clutch hit, but the description was a little overboard. Hawk has not become Santo. He has become desperate. For almost anything.
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Old 06-09-2013, 03:41 PM
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In the 4-1 win over Oakland, Hawk treated Rios' run-scoring in the 8th as if it was the World Series. Yes, it was a clutch hit, but the description was a little overboard. Hawk has not become Santo. He has become desperate. For almost anything.
That I can relate to, as I'm desperate to be rid of Squawk once and for all.
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:42 PM
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Personally, it'll be a devastating day for me when Hawk isn't our broadcaster anymore.

His passion and his sheer joy when the Sox are winning and his sheer agony when they are not strike a chord with me as I feel those emotions right along with him.

Do I think his old time stories and some of his thoughts on how to be successful in baseball are BS? Of course but it is entertaining BS.

That being said he should never be compared to Santo from a broadcasting side. All Santo offered for analysis was "yeah" and then he just rooted for the Cubs. Hawk roots for the White Sox but offers tons of analysis throughout the game and is perceptive to situations and other teams players. Its comparing apples to oranges and frankly an insult to Hawk to compare him to Santo.

When Mike Huff and Steve Stone were calling the games I could not watch. It was pitiful.
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Old 06-09-2013, 08:34 PM
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Hawk is definitely declining- but of the 4 radio/TV announcers they have- he is by far the best- Stone is knowledgable, but not very interesting or entertaining to listen to.

The drop in chemistry from the weekend when Paciorek as in the booth is pretty dramatic.

Farmer/DJ has to be one of the worst radio teams in MLB- I only listen when I have no other option- I am almost always completely annoyed within the first half inning.

Get rid of Stone, Farmer and DJ before letting Hawk go.

One more area of this organization that needs to be completely overhauled.
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Old 06-09-2013, 08:41 PM
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In the 4-1 win over Oakland, Hawk treated Rios' run-scoring in the 8th as if it was the World Series. Yes, it was a clutch hit, but the description was a little overboard. Hawk has not become Santo. He has become desperate. For almost anything.
So Harrelson has become Jack Brickhouse -- the Cubs' Brickhouse, I am really too young to speak to the Brickhouse that did White Sox games, but I don't see why Hey-Hey and the rising pitch in his voice with the increased excitement would have been reserved for Wrigley when WGN was doing the home games on both sides of town.

Ron Santo wasn't simply a homer. He was an incompetent communicator approaching the end. Harrelson is the butt of a lot of jokes in other major league cities, but he's not the but of the same jokes Santo was the butt of.

The A's announcers were sort of on Harrelson this weekend because they pride themselves on not being homers. But Ray Fosse spent a good deal of time this weekend complaining about calls and the demeanor of the umpires and such, although he kept a steady, unexcited voice. He must have mentioned late in the Saturday and Sunday games maybe 20 times that the A's should have a chance against Reed because he gave up five runs in one inning in Seattle. He was talking Sunday about the umpires depriving the A's of a win Saturday.

As much as I dislike Harrelson as an announcer, I dislike most other baseball announcers at least as much.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:00 PM
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I am really too young to speak to the Brickhouse that did White Sox games, but I don't see why Hey-Hey and the rising pitch in his voice with the increased excitement would have been reserved for Wrigley when WGN was doing the home games on both sides of town.
As someone who has TV audio of Jack doing games in my library and have posted such on this web site, I can tell you Jack was as happy when the Sox won as he was in his later years just doing the Cubs.

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Old 06-09-2013, 09:11 PM
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As someone who has TV audio of Jack doing games in my library and have posted such on this web site, I can tell you Jack was as happy when the Sox won as he was in his later years just doing the Cubs.

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Agreed, I'll never forget his call of the Aparicio to Klu DP to win the 59 pennant. I still get goosebumps when I hear it.
Can be heard on WSI Audio Memories.
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:36 PM
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In the 4-1 win over Oakland, Hawk treated Rios' run-scoring in the 8th as if it was the World Series. Yes, it was a clutch hit, but the description was a little overboard. Hawk has not become Santo. He has become desperate. For almost anything.
Yes, he's been doing that lately whenever the team does anything good. It's a bit much. It reeks of desperation.

I just think Hawk's becoming weird in old age. I'm not one who minds old stories about old players, but Hawk is now mentioning Ted Williams a handful of times every week. I'm embarrassed for him.

I'd like to see Hawk removed from the booth and made a team ambassador.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:49 PM
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Agreed, I'll never forget his call of the Aparicio to Klu DP to win the 59 pennant. I still get goosebumps when I hear it.
Can be heard on WSI Audio Memories.
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I know. I put it there.

In fact I have the entire WGN-TV audio of the entire top and bottom of the 9th inning from that night along with about two minutes of the 10th inning show.

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Old 06-10-2013, 10:26 AM
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I just hope that Hawk doesn't stay around too long like Harry Caray did. I thought it was terrible when Caray kept calling Andre Dawson, Andre Rogers. One of the reasons I like Hawk is he is a total White Sox fan. He might be the only total White Sox fan in the entire Chicago media. Considering how the Chicago media favors the bad guys on the Northside, I'm glad to have somebody on the side of the White Sox.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:44 AM
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Meh, I like Hawk. He has a good broadcasting voice, a good pace, and he has some great calls. His Hawkisms are a part of the White Sox and a part of the fan base. When attending games Iíll always here ďHe gone!Ē after big strike outs, ďYou can put it on the boardÖĒ etc.. Even people who claim to hate Hawk Iím sure have said those things being fans of the team.

He is pretty crazy sometimes with calls but thatís because heís a giant fan of the team just like the rest of us. Iím sure Iíve sounded like a crazy person screaming at the TV after bad calls, or almost home runs too. I know people say ďBut heís a broadcaster heís supposed to be a pro!Ē Well, heís a homer, he admits it, and he isnít going to change. Good for him. Iíve heard other people talk about how its embarrassing to have Hawk as the Sox announcer. To that I say, who the hell cares what sports talk shows like Bores and Bernstein and websites like deadspin have to say about Hawk. If you havenít noticed those guys and that site make fun of everything, itís kinda their thingÖ

Itíll be a sad day when I donít get to hear ďYou can put it on the booooooard YES!Ē after a White Sox Home Run.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:51 AM
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I only get to listen to Hawk and Stone on games broadcast by WGN, so it's not an everyday thing. I love the passion Hawk displays because as others have posted it mirrors my feelings. And the rapport between them has been better this year. They actually talk to one another during games...big improvement.

I listen to lots of games on XM radio. And Farmer and DJ are terrible. They try to be funny but it comes off as silly. Even my wife who's not a big fan commented about how silly those two sound.

I say fix the radio crew first. Use any changes on the radio as an audition for the inevitable successor to Hawk. We won't have him forever.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:17 AM
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Hawk is definitely declining- but of the 4 radio/TV announcers they have- he is by far the best- Stone is knowledgable, but not very interesting or entertaining to listen to.
Its the game that is supposed to be "entertaining," not the announcer.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:26 AM
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Its the game that is supposed to be "entertaining," not the announcer.
Boring announcers can make games boring (see Farmer, Ed) - otherwise, what's the difference among them all?
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:34 AM
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Its the game that is supposed to be "entertaining," not the announcer.
If you had to listen to the "paint-drying" quality of some of the vanilla announcers out there, you might disagree.
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