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Old 06-05-2013, 06:41 PM
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There goes the trade leverage on Peavy. No one is giving up blue chips for him now. We'll have to wait for the offseason, and then it's only a year left on his deal so we're not getting anything decent for him. Should have traded him already. Deal immediately becomes a loss since we're not competing. It's wasted money now.
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:44 PM
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There goes the trade leverage on Peavy. No one is giving up blue chips for him now. We'll have to wait for the offseason, and then it's only a year left on his deal so we're not getting anything decent for him. Should have traded him already. Deal immediately becomes a loss since we're not competing. It's wasted money now.
It's not a year left on his deal, it's one year plus an option for another year. And he still can return before the trade deadline this season.
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:48 PM
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It's not a year left on his deal, it's one year plus an option for another year. And he still can return before the trade deadline this season.
No, according to Cots it's a player option (team has no control or buyout privilege) that he can only qualify for based on innings pitched that he's now likely not to meet (400 over two years, 190 of which has to be next season).

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Old 06-06-2013, 12:52 AM
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How do you fracture a rib? Did something take place that affected his bone density? Doctors, help?
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:19 AM
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How do you fracture a rib? Did something take place that affected his bone density? Doctors, help?
The Peave is a great team guy and has lots of friends on the club. I would guess they were busting it up about something, like a grand slam, and somebody gave him a good ribbing, made Jake laugh. That 6 man rotation does not sound so bad now huh?
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Old 06-06-2013, 11:11 AM
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That 6 man rotation does not sound so bad now huh?
Yes, it still does. We now have a long reliever that can immediately be slotted into starting duty. An extra day of rest would not have spared Peavy's rib.
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:17 PM
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According to the Sun-Times, for what it's worth:

"Peavy, who is signed through next season and has no no-trade clause in his contract..."

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Old 06-06-2013, 12:22 PM
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Peavy
out 4-6 weeks with non-displaced rib fracture on his left side. He will be shut down for four-to-six weeks, and the only treatment for him is rest. X-rays taken at Safeco Field proved negative for a fracture, but the MRI showed differently.

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Old 06-06-2013, 12:30 PM
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The Peave is a great team guy and has lots of friends on the club. I would guess they were busting it up about something, like a grand slam, and somebody gave him a good ribbing, made Jake laugh. That 6 man rotation does not sound so bad now huh?
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:32 PM
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There goes the trade leverage on Peavy. No one is giving up blue chips for him now. We'll have to wait for the offseason, and then it's only a year left on his deal so we're not getting anything decent for him. Should have traded him already. Deal immediately becomes a loss since we're not competing. It's wasted money now.


No one is trading blue chip prospects in May, anyways, so you're argument is pretty much moot. It's all part of the risk/reward when dealing with veteran players. And 2 years, $29 M hardly qualifies as a bad deal. Don't be so dramatic.
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:54 PM
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No one is trading blue chip prospects in May, anyways, so you're argument is pretty much moot. It's all part of the risk/reward when dealing with veteran players. And 2 years, $29 M hardly qualifies as a bad deal. Don't be so dramatic.
You are correct that Peavy has a very team friendly deal. Edwin Jackson got 4 years $52 million and Anibal Sanchez got 5 years $80 million on the open market last offseason so Peavy's 2 year $29 million is practically bargain bin in comparison.
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:20 PM
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There goes the trade leverage on Peavy. No one is giving up blue chips for him now. We'll have to wait for the offseason, and then it's only a year left on his deal so we're not getting anything decent for him. Should have traded him already. Deal immediately becomes a loss since we're not competing. It's wasted money now.
If we were going to trade him before now then there was no point in re-signing him in the first place. As others have noted, we got a bargain in his contract and there is always an injury risk, especially with pitchers. Saying we should have traded him before now is a textbook example of Monday morning quarterbacking.
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:45 PM
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If we were going to trade him before now then there was no point in re-signing him in the first place. As others have noted, we got a bargain in his contract and there is always an injury risk, especially with pitchers. Saying we should have traded him before now is a textbook example of Monday morning quarterbacking.
Agreed. There is a reason why there are more deals closer to the deadline. I was looking forward to a potential Peavy deal in the middle of July or around then.
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:24 PM
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Anyone who doesn't think we should have traded Peavy already is in denial of the state of the White Sox. It was obvious even before the last losing streak this team was a lock for bottom of the division. That's when the trade needed to happen. You want to disagree with that, that's your perogative. But it isn't like A) it wasn't said then by many people and B) it isn't incredibly obvious now. Our run differential doesn't even point to a 70 win team. We're probably more likely to lose 100 than win 70. Waiting when it's blatantly obvious it's time to blow it up is another in a long list of why Rick Hahn is not/should never have been a major league general manager. Seriously, we can't get better until he's fired.
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:45 PM
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I believe Hahn is told if, when and how to blow this thing up. I blame him for nothing regarding this.
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