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Old 05-24-2013, 08:36 PM
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Uh, when was the last time someone brought up the idea of running out a 6-man rotation?
I seem to recall the idea being thrown around fairly frequently last season.

Sometimes in conjunction with the idea of Sale's elbow exploding with the force of a hydrogen bomb if he pitched too many innings. Or something like that.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:38 PM
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I seem to recall the idea being thrown around fairly frequently last season.

Sometimes in conjunction with the idea of Sale's elbow exploding with the force of a hydrogen bomb if he pitched too many innings. Or something like that.
Yeah, no, yeah... No, yeah, it wasn't

Perhaps you're thinking of 2011 when the Sox did have a 6-man rotation?
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:11 PM
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It is possible that it was 2011. I'm getting old enough that my past is becoming a blur.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:35 PM
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If you had a larger roster, I could see potentially going to six starters, if you had six arms worth it. However, with only 25 guys (13 regular players and 12 pitchers), that puts a ton of pressure on your bullpen, since there would only be six arms out there. You could also end up with guys who go a week or longer without pitching, and that's too infrequently.
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:31 AM
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If you had a larger roster, I could see potentially going to six starters, if you had six arms worth it. However, with only 25 guys (13 regular players and 12 pitchers), that puts a ton of pressure on your bullpen, since there would only be six arms out there. You could also end up with guys who go a week or longer without pitching, and that's too infrequently.
The same argument was probably made when the Orioles in the early seventies started the switch to a five man rotation, soon after every team had to have five starters. I would rather see a move in the opposite direction, strengthen the bullpen by going to a four man rotation.



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Old 05-25-2013, 12:44 AM
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It is interesting to challenge why a five man rotation gives optimal rest for the throwing arm. Why not a four man? Especially if the starters could go shorter innings and the two guys left out could go every few days.

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It's hard enough to get five pitchers decent enough to start.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:08 AM
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With the money paid to Danks and Peavy and their experience, they should be going no more than 5 days probably 4 but unfortunately those days are gone. Sale being young and the type of mechanics he has could maybe get extra time off occasionally. With 6 starters one can relief and be ready for a spot start, no need to ever go to 6 man rotation.
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:04 PM
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Personally, I think it would be a mistake to take Santiago out of the rotation. Dude's nasty when he's got his stuff working.
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Old 05-26-2013, 02:58 PM
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Please elaborate.

I don't know if you caught it or not. The Sox have probably the best head trainer in sports. They have been by far the healthiest MLB for well over a decade.
Maybe you did not notice Danks is coming back from major surgery, Peavy will always need to be treated with kid gloves since his own unprecedented shoulder repair. Meanwhile, Sale just missed a start 1/4 of the way into the season due to pain.
I think the 6 man rotation is a valid stategy to consider. Your Aces will not be throwing Wilbur Wood quantity innings and your #4-5-6 pitchers on this team could #2-3-4 on most others. And your aces won't be making any appearances if their bodily needs are not taken seriously.
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Old 05-26-2013, 07:18 PM
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Not sure of this but haven't the Sox lost a starter for the season to a serious injury three years in a row now? Peavy...Danks...Floyd.

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Old 05-27-2013, 12:08 PM
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Not sure of this but haven't the Sox lost a starter for the season to a serious injury three years in a row now? Peavy...Danks...Floyd.
At least the third one seems to be a case of addition by subtraction.

It was actually 2010 when Peavy's shoulder snapped though.
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:12 PM
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I hate that. No way is Axelrod a better pitcher than Santiago, particularly long term. I get they need a lefty in the pen, but I'd work out the pen after selecting the best five for the rotation if it were up to me.
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:15 PM
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I honestly thing that Santiago is better in the bullpen long-term anyway, if only because of the fact that he throws a screwball. I've tried throwing them before and man...it hurt like hell for me. Surely it would hurt less for someone who's used to throwing it, but that pitch can mess up your elbow and wrist something fierce.
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