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Old 05-20-2013, 11:55 AM
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Bernstein is wrong about this, I believe. In addition to Hawk's comments on the Score, Tim McCarver discussed Phegley during the Sox-Angels broadcast today, noting that he is tearing up AAA.

Phegley had to overcome some health issues, has done so and is starting to come into his own as a ballplayer. I think we will see him in Chicago soon.
I heard someone on the WSCR (not sure who- but it was a pro not a a random caller)- saying Phegley was one of the top players in AAA right now.

In the International League- He's #4 in HRs (1 behind leader), #11 in RBIs, #4 OPS
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Old 05-20-2013, 01:04 PM
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I heard someone on the WSCR (not sure who- but it was a pro not a a random caller)- saying Phegley was one of the top players in AAA right now.

In the International League- He's #4 in HRs (1 behind leader), #11 in RBIs, #4 OPS
You heard Buddy Bell on White Sox Weekly.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/audio/98...interviews#986
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:04 PM
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You heard Buddy Bell on White Sox Weekly.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/audio/98...interviews#986
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I heard someone on the WSCR (not sure who- but it was a pro not a a random caller)- saying Phegley was one of the top players in AAA right now.

In the International League- He's #4 in HRs (1 behind leader), #11 in RBIs, #4 OPS
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To be fair, you have to explain the entire context of that segment.

Hawk has notoriously taken the stance that scouting means everything and numbers mean nothing. He has been very all or nothing.

However, despite the fact that no scouting report has Phegley as any kind of real prospect, and most indicate he is a career back up at best (nor is he a top 10 spec, or a top 100/300 prospect etc). His numbers have been very good for a small sample size.

So what B & B were ripping on was not Phegley, but the idea that here, numbers were being used BY HAWK to discount SCOUTING, which kind of makes Hawk a hypocrite in this case....
Well that's not what I remember of Bernstein's comments. The conversation I heard Bernstein bashed Phegley, made some snarky comment(s) about how Phegley was not a prospect. Bernstein bashed Phegley as a way to bash Hawk. That's the way I took it.

As I said, I don't put much weight into Hawk's comment on prospects. But Bernstein's smug, condescending attitude and he's dismissive comments are tiresome to me. I'll take Hawk over Bernstein. Hawk to me is like Harry Caray, a fun, goofy clownish character. Bernstein is just a ...
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:52 PM
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Well that's not what I remember of Bernstein's comments. The conversation I heard Bernstein bashed Phegley, made some snarky comment(s) about how Phegley was not a prospect. Bernstein bashed Phegley as a way to bash Hawk. That's the way I took it.
Regardless, I wouldn't get worked up over anything Dan & Terry say. They've found a niche in the sports radio scene, taking the dumbest callers possible and then extrapolating that to an entire sports community. It gets them ratings and business-wise it's done them well.

With regards to Phegley, while he's not one of the top prospects in baseball, to dismiss him as organizational filler is silly and uninformed. He will get a shot in the majors (which is an accomplishment in itself) and may even stick with the big club. He's a good kid, a hard worker and went through some serious adversity early in his career.
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:19 PM
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Regardless, I wouldn't get worked up over anything Dan & Terry say. They've found a niche in the sports radio scene, taking the dumbest callers possible and then extrapolating that to an entire sports community. It gets them ratings and business-wise it's done them well.

With regards to Phegley, while he's not one of the top prospects in baseball, to dismiss him as organizational filler is silly and uninformed. He will get a shot in the majors (which is an accomplishment in itself) and may even stick with the big club. He's a good kid, a hard worker and went through some serious adversity early in his career.
He's 25- a little old for a AAA prospect- but those stats on offense sure look like a guy who has had a break through.

As far as Bernstein goes- he's a tool. He's one of those annoying new parents who thinks everything their young child does is fascinating- and he bores his listeners with that b.s., he goes out of his way to berate his callers- he lost me forever a few years ago- when he (I kid you not) did a whole segment on "What are your most annoying errors when it comes to grammar?" (i.e. your vs. you're, etc.)- lasted at least 20 minutes.
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Gordon Beckham is playing SS tonight in Charlotte. Interesting...
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:44 AM
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Gordon Beckham is playing SS tonight in Charlotte. Interesting...
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Quick Q: who is our backup SS?
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Quick Q: who is our backup SS?
Greene until Sanchez is back, I would guess, right?
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:28 AM
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I think Angel Sanchez when he was healthy.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:19 AM
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I caught about 1 minute of the Phegley chat on Boers and Bernstein and I thought I had heard Bernstein talk highly of him. Maybe I missed something and he was being facetious.

I could probably count on one hand how many people have professed to being a fan of theirs and yet they regularly destroy ESPN in the ratings. I'm reminded of this exchange regarding Howard Stern in the movie Private Parts:

Researcher: "The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes."

Pig Vomit: "How can that be?"

Researcher: "Answer most commonly given? "I want to see what he'll say next."

Pig Vomit: "Okay, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?"

Researcher: "Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day."

Pig Vomit: "But... if they hate him, why do they listen?"

Researcher: "Most common answer? "I want to see what he'll say next."

In other words, LOL at all the B&B haters that seem to know an awful lot about a show they don't listen to.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:35 AM
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In other words, LOL at all the B&B haters that seem to know an awful lot about a show they don't listen to.
Which is exactly why they will continue to stick with their current format. When you're pulling down big ratings, there's really not much reason to switch.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:49 PM
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He's 25- a little old for a AAA prospect- but those stats on offense sure look like a guy who has had a break through.
Wasn't Phegley the guy who was sidelined for a while with a serious illness - I want to say a blood disease. Assuming he's fully recovered, that may explain why he's still in the minors at age 25.

I don't know if that's the case or not, but I do remember reading about him being ill a couple of years ago.
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Wasn't Phegley the guy who was sidelined for a while with a serious illness - I want to say a blood disease. Assuming he's fully recovered, that may explain why he's still in the minors at age 25.

I don't know if that's the case or not, but I do remember reading about him being ill a couple of years ago.
Yes, this is correct.
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Wasn't Phegley the guy who was sidelined for a while with a serious illness - I want to say a blood disease. Assuming he's fully recovered, that may explain why he's still in the minors at age 25.

I don't know if that's the case or not, but I do remember reading about him being ill a couple of years ago.
Yes, he had an extremely rare blood disease that makes him vulnerable to internal bleeding. Eventually he had his spleen removed in 2010. This basically cost him the 2010 and 2011 seasons in terms of his development.
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