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The Sox didn't make the moves in the off-season to make this team any better. In which case made it worse. For as beat up as our pitching staff is, they are still as solid as ever. Credit Coop for that. It's a long season, they can turn it around. However we have a track record of dumping the players if we are sucking.
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This site is going to be a blast in July/August.
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Robin is in pretty tough, both him and Hahn inherited the remnants of Kenny's over-aggressive player acquisition style. But he could change things up if they don't work. That's the sign of a good manager - adaptability. |
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Yes we are a scrap heap, a dung heap and a Dunn heap.
Roster is ugly, first time in Sox history with two players first name of Tyler. I guess Tyler was trendy 20-30 years ago. As some have stated just too many AAAA players. Add in an old Konerko (can he still turn on a fastball?) A horrible DH, and that is your 2013 Chicago White Sox. Our only strength is pitching and this franchise recent history suggests there is a White Flag part two a coming. |
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The only change we'll see is when Beckham comes off the DL.
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Ventura certainly isn't the major problem with this team. Talent is. But, the unfocused play does fall at his feet. Baseball strategy isn't difficult, so things like intentionally walking Chris Getz do make one wonder.
That said, if we do conduct a fire sale, it really would be nice if we had a long term plan before doing it. Hahn should have his scouts working on it now so that we know who we want and can reasonably get before hand. |
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Very true.
Really though, what tradeable pieces do we have, what would the return be, and would that return be worth it? I count six guys - Peavy, Rios (may need to eat some salary), Ramirez, Lindstrom, Crain, Thornton as guys who other teams might want (and maybe a 7th in Konerko). I suppose you could also consider Santiago/Quintana at some point too so the rotation isn't so lefty - assuming a healthy Danks - but I couldn't see that being an in-season type move. And I guess if the team is in full tear down and rebuild mode they can look at trading Reed, but at some point they need to look at guys they'd want to build around. This is - unfortunately - the guys and the roster Robin is working with, but I'd love to see what changes he might have in mind.
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The state of this team is not Robin's fault, and it's not 100% on Hahn (I don't know how much he is responsible for though). Where this team is at is mostly due to the moves KW made over the last 4-5 seasons. Trading away prospects for aging overpaid veterans, no focus on the minor leagues or developing players and signing aging veterans is what has led us to this point. The only thing this team has going for it is the pitching, and I will give credit to KW for assembling the staff. But everything else is just horrible and there is no light at the end of the tunnel. We are heading into some dark times with this organization; I hope Hahn has a plan and the resources to turn things around.
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Every now and then you have to get lucky in baseball. Everybody thought Vernon Wells was through . The Yankees took a chance on him and he has done well with the Yankees this year.(The Angels are paying most of the contract) Hopefully we can make a move or too and hopefully come out of it in a positive way. I dearly hope the first move is to bench Adam Done. Maybe he will take the hint and retire. By him hanging up his spikes we will be rid of him plus we will not be responsible for the rest of is salary. Maybe the White Sox can work out some deal with him to pay him a percentage of his contract and he can just leave. Either way I hope Done will no longer be on this team. I don't care who they replace him with, just let him go. He is the worse all around player the White Sox have had in my lifetime. And he is the worse clean up hitter in modern ( post World War 2) baseball history.
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I agree he is the longest tenured guy who was this bad in my lifetime, but he's far from the worst.
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The blame falls on Kenny and ultimately on JR for charting the course and allowing it to be charted.
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