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Old 04-12-2013, 12:20 PM
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Carlos Quentin likely will be suspended 10 days, and Zack Greinke out two months, and, there will be retribution : http://usat.ly/153BwKc

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Old 04-12-2013, 12:30 PM
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Of course Phil Rogers has to remind us how he played for the Sox today
Did Phil leave his vibrator at home by mistake? Honestly, I don't know of anyone who goes out of his way to masturbate to the mistakes or misfortunes of anyone connected to the White Sox organization more than Rogers. Why doesn't he just shut the **** up?
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:43 PM
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Carlos Quentin likely will be suspended 10 days, and Zack Greinke out two months, and, there will be retribution : http://usat.ly/153BwKc
What's the average suspension for a mound charging? Because if TCQ is getting additional punishment because Greinke got hurt, that's ****. If they wanted to punish people for unintended results from possibly dangerous situations every pitcher that hits a batter should be suspended too.
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:47 PM
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What's the average suspension for a mound charging? Because if TCQ is getting additional punishment because Greinke got hurt, that's ****. If they wanted to punish people for unintended results from possibly dangerous situations every pitcher that hits a batter should be suspended too.
What this doesn't take into consideration is not so much the injury, but the circumstance. Can you think of a circumstance where a guy charged the mound for no reason having to do with baseball?
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:49 PM
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Actually, I readily acknowledged that that HBP may have been an accident. However, at this point Carlos isn't inclined to give Greinke the benefit of the doubt; based on their history, no one should be surprised by this, especially Greinke. He could have indicated to Carlos that it was an accident; apparently he didn't.
This being the case, it may not have mattered if Greinke had indicated that he didn't mean to hit Quentin. Food for thought.
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:52 PM
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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/carlo...tins-hbp-zone/

Great read on where Quentin's HBPs occur.
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:52 PM
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What's the average suspension for a mound charging? Because if TCQ is getting additional punishment because Greinke got hurt, that's ****. If they wanted to punish people for unintended results from possibly dangerous situations every pitcher that hits a batter should be suspended too.
The problem is that although the result may not have been intended by Quentin, his actions that ultimately led to it were. No one made him charge the mound or take Greinke down, and had he not done either of those things, it's highly unlikely that Greinke breaks his clavicle. It may not be entirely fair, but TCQ could have anticipated the consequences of his actions before taking them.
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:55 PM
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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/carlo...tins-hbp-zone/

Great read on where Quentin's HBPs occur.
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:59 PM
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This being the case, it may not have mattered if Greinke had indicated that he didn't mean to hit Quentin. Food for thought.
This is definitely true; I'm sure Carlos was on edge going into the game with Greinke. However, Carlos stated that Greinke's body language was a factor in his decision to run at him so that suggests things may have been different had Zack let him know he wasn't trying to hit him. As opposed to, "**** you...take your base" type of stuff.
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:13 PM
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I would imagine Greinke was mad at least in the past because pitches a few inches off the plate nail Quentin, and since he's hit Quentin before, he's probably said something at some point. So he probably said something maybe it was even sorry, and if Quentin sees his lips moving, it could set him off. Getting hit is no fun, and if the guy who hit you pops off or you think he pops off, it could set you off. People have charged the mound for years. No one gets 10 games. Quentin is getting punished for Greinke getting hurt.

If Greinke threw at Quentin and Quentin broke his hand and missed 2 months, Greinke would get at most a 5 game suspension where he would miss a start. That doesn't seem too fair.

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Old 04-12-2013, 02:38 PM
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After this, is anyone else starting to wonder if Carlos has been on steroids? I don't have any proof, but with all of the outbursts he has, one has to wonder if there's something behind it, especially when you consider his normally calm, quiet demeanor.
His eyebrows are on steroids.
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:39 PM
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This thread really shows me how many people on this site have ever played baseball competitively.
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:43 PM
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The thing I haven't notice anybody mention yet is how this started off as a sumo match. I've never seen a hitter and pitcher just bounce off of each other like that. On first contact, neither went for a take down, neither attempted to throw a punch. It was just weird.
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:53 PM
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This thread really shows me how many people on this site have ever played baseball competitively.
Care to explain why you feel that way? And I'm not trying to stir up trouble, I'm truly curious.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:05 PM
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I agree with this 100%. I'm not happy that Greinke got hurt, but TCQ didn't come flying into him with his cleats up or swinging for his head.

Sometimes it is up to the players to police the game.
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