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Old 02-12-2013, 02:20 PM
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Default Braves Replace "Screaming Savage" ST Hat

They made the right choice. Some logos are best left in the past:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...2239--mlb.html
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:29 PM
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:45 PM
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Tough to discuss this without getting it roadhoused.
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:54 PM
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I am fast becoming a huge fan of "The Hater". The AJC's sports columns are usually painfully lackluster.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:04 PM
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Have the new SOX BP/Spring Training caps gone onsale yet? I didn't see it on the official site. They look nice matched up with the black jerseys based on the photos released today from inside the clubhouse. I'm hoping this will be my new favorite cap. I really liked the similar styled BP cap from a few years ago, except the mesh fabric was not as nice as the new ones.

I also like the revised Braves cap. I'm still warming up to all the alternate logos and white crowns. I'm glad the SOX kept their caps simple, although I wonder how the Diamond SOX or the Flying SOX would have looked.

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Old 02-12-2013, 03:23 PM
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It's a good thing they didn't go with this screaming savage either. Braves fans under the age of 20 just wouldn't get it.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:32 PM
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It's a good thing they didn't go with this screaming savage either. Braves fans under the age of 20 just wouldn't get it.
Now if you could have just photoshopped his head on a cap, it would have been a classic!
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I disagree with the over-sensitive people who bitch and moan about this ****ing nonsense.

It is an honor for Native Americans to be used as sports teams' nicknames/logos.

Teams use Native American names and imagery because in the past they were strong, fierce, and brave warriors.

I have especially disagreed with Paul Lukas of ESPN/ Uni Watch over this issue.

Edit: I can understand the outrage over the Cleveland Indians' Chief Wahoo logo and The Washington Redskins' name but, for folks to be upset over the names and imagery of ALL of these teams is just ridiculous.

If they ever mess with the Blackhawks name or logo I'll be the one who's outraged.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:46 PM
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Now if you could have just photoshopped his head on a cap, it would have been a classic!
I'll leave that to someone else with more time and energy.


Speaking of offensive mascots, did anyone read Mike Florio's recent column calling for RGIII to use his influence to put an end to the name "Redskins"?
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I disagree with the over-sensitive people who bitch and moan about this ****ing nonsense.

It is an honor for Native Americans to be used as sports teams' nicknames/logos.
Just to point out, a lot of people who are "over-sensitive" and "bitch and moan" are actual Native Americans who do not feel any sense of honor to be used as a sports mascot.

Big Daddy Drew over at Deadspin, who probably nobody would ever describe as overly sensitive, weighs in: http://deadspin.com/5983475/washingt...t-way-possible
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Just to point out, a lot of people who are "over-sensitive" and "bitch and moan" are actual Native Americans who do not feel any sense of honor to be used as a sports mascot.

Big Daddy Drew over at Deadspin, who probably nobody would ever describe as overly sensitive, weighs in: http://deadspin.com/5983475/washingt...t-way-possible
Point taken but, there are also alot of Native Americans who see the honor and dignity of some of the sports teams names.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:56 PM
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I am fast becoming a huge fan of "The Hater". The AJC's sports columns are usually painfully lackluster.
Fact. Bring back "the Nose"! (If he's still alive, I think he last wrote for the Constitution in the mid 80s)
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Just to point out, a lot of people who are "over-sensitive" and "bitch and moan" are actual Native Americans who do not feel any sense of honor to be used as a sports mascot.

Big Daddy Drew over at Deadspin, who probably nobody would ever describe as overly sensitive, weighs in: http://deadspin.com/5983475/washingt...t-way-possible
As an Illinois alum, I'm probably a bit biased, but IMO there is a difference between naming a team after an Indian tribe, or naming a team the "Braves", and naming a team the "Redskins" or using the goofy Cleveland Indians logo.
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Point taken but, there are also alot of Native Americans who see the honor and dignity of some of the sports teams names.
That is true. Like just about everything else in life, the answer is somewhere in the grey middle, not in the extreme white or black sides.

I know you have said you don't like Paul Lukas's views on the subject, and I respect that, but I think this is a pretty sane, rational piece:

http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fan...erican-imagery

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Old 02-12-2013, 04:11 PM
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I imagine the Redskins would get a lot of flak from their older fans if they were to change the name....but if they do it right think of all the money they can rake in from selling their new apparel.

As someone on Deadspin commented they could just offer to tweak the meaning of "redskins" and put an Idaho potato on their helmets.
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