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Old 12-22-2012, 09:39 PM
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Default White Sox don't have to make any more trades/moves

We can create a 25 man roster. No need to make a trade just for the sake of
Making a trade. Being patient might not be the worst thing right now. Floyd might be a good value if Ejax can fetch $13m/year.

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peavy
Danks
Floyd
Quintana
Santiago
Veal
Thornton
Crain
Jones
Reed
In house reliever in final slot like Martinez or Omogrosso.

infielders 5
Konerko
Beckham
Ramirez
Keppinger
Sanchez

Outfielders 5
Rios
de Aza
Viciedo
wise
Jordan Danks

DH/1b
Adam Dunn

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flowers
Gimenez
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:25 PM
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We can create a 25 man roster. No need to make a trade just for the sake of
Making a trade. Being patient might not be the worst thing right now. Floyd might be a good value if Ejax can fetch $13m/year.

Pitchers (12)
Sale
peavy
Danks
Floyd
Quintana
Santiago
Veal
Thornton
Crain
Jones
Reed
In house reliever in final slot like Martinez or Omogrosso.

infielders 5
Konerko
Beckham
Ramirez
Keppinger
Sanchez

Outfielders 5
Rios
de Aza
Viciedo
wise
Jordan Danks

DH/1b
Adam Dunn

c
flowers
Gimenez
Not a bad .500 team, but I'd think we'd need to improve a few spots to have a chance to contend.

We still need experienced relief help, another bench outfielder with pop to take some righty at-bats from Viciedo (if he's not traded) and at least an experienced catcher who can hit. Gimenez is not a major league quality backup, and we need some cover for Flowers - especially if he goes south with the bat.

I'd also think that the Sox should deal Thornton to free up some salary - he's got an easily declined option after the season and earns $5.5M this year
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:24 AM
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Suno:

I disagree. The Sox need some hitters in that lineup. They are probably going to have to trade some pitching to get them.

There are five players on your projected roster that would not be on the roster of any real "contender" in my opinion. Like Russ speculated, with that roster you might get to .500...maybe.

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Old 12-23-2012, 11:34 AM
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The Sox don't have to do anything, if they want a c. 500 team. But as is currently constructed, the team lacks pop and the bench is painful to even contemplate.
But they have to do something to contend. And if they can't get that done, I'd prefer that they drop back to a 75 win team and get some young players in here.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:33 PM
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For this team to contend with the present roster it must depend on pitching from our staff like we haven't seen since the 50s and 60s. I have no problem with letting AJ and Youk walk, their best years are behind them but if we are to contend we need some better hitters in the lineup. If Dunn bats 3rd for us, we aren't going to give the Tigers much of a battle, more like a battle for 2nd place with the rest of the division.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:05 PM
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he's got an easily declined option after the season and earns $5.5M this year
"Earns."
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:27 PM
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So far this offseason, all we've done is let two key offensive players walk and signed Keppinger. More moves, better moves, need to happen if we're going to challenge Detroit again. If you couldn't finish the job with the most recent roster, the current one definitely won't do it either. Get someone to provide some leadership if we get caught in another stretch run.
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:13 PM
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My goodness, this team still needs to make some moves. We can improve a lot at second base, catcher and left field. Then there's the bench.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:01 PM
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To echo what a few have said, this is a decent middle of the pack roster. In the past, it's what we've built year in and out, hoping to luck into close to 90 wins. The unfortunate thing is now the rest of the Central is getting better, and the Tigers have built a team that has to be unlucky not to win 90 games. The margin of error has become really small and mostly out of our control, unless we get some significant talent additions to the roster.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:46 PM
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My goodness, this team still needs to make some moves. We can improve a lot at second base, catcher and left field. Then there's the bench.
Please give some viable, realistic things that the White Sox can do to improve at 2B. Personally, I think that Viciedo is fine in LF, but I do agree that the White Sox need a quality backup catcher. And of course, the bench.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:49 PM
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Please give some viable, realistic things that the White Sox can do to improve at 2B. Personally, I think that Viciedo is fine in LF, but I do agree that the White Sox need a quality backup catcher. And of course, the bench.
Just because something is out of our reach doesn't mean it isn't in need of an upgrade.
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Old 12-23-2012, 04:53 PM
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That is an 80 win team maybe. Terrible Bullpen, Floyd and Quintana is a weak 4-5, and the offense is not going to consistently score runs.

The Sox big problem is they are below average at so many positions offensively and that bullpen is going to blow leads.
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:14 PM
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That is an 80 win team maybe. Terrible Bullpen, Floyd and Quintana is a weak 4-5, and the offense is not going to consistently score runs.
Not really. Floyd is pretty decent for a 4. Quintana is still a wild card.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:08 PM
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That is an 80 win team maybe. Terrible Bullpen, Floyd and Quintana is a weak 4-5, and the offense is not going to consistently score runs.

The Sox big problem is they are below average at so many positions offensively and that bullpen is going to blow leads.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:12 PM
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That is an 80 win team maybe. Terrible Bullpen, Floyd and Quintana is a weak 4-5, and the offense is not going to consistently score runs.

The Sox big problem is they are below average at so many positions offensively and that bullpen is going to blow leads.
With or without Thornton, the Bullpen will be pretty decent this year.
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