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The steroids in an asthma inhaler are catabolic (or anti-inflamatory) steroids, not anabolic (or muscle-building) steroids. Big difference.
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I doubt there will be any pitching records broken any time soon, the wimpification of the position dictates that.
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Willie Mays was linked by second and third hand information to the "red juice" later in his career. Watching him play for the Mets was as close to heartbreaking as it gets. He was just a shadow of his former self. His major accuser was John Milner who was a teammate of his on the Mets. I have no knowledge of Aaron being linked to anything. Look at the physique of Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Clemente, Robinson, et al and then compare before and afters of Bonds, Sosa and McGwire. I stand by my previous post so we can agree to disagree. |
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It's too bad the HOF is a joke. The 2013 class appears to be the most difficult because of the number of probable PED users. The only legit players I see will be Big Hurt and Greg Maddux as first ballot HOF'ers in '14, Randy Johnson in '15, and Griffey Jr. in '16. The rest of 'em can take a long walk off of a short pier.
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I think players should be judged on their numbers alone, unless they tested positive after MLB implemented a testing program. Otherwise, we're going to see players kept out on nothing more than suspicion or hearsay, while other players who were supposedly clean will get in and years later admit to using. Here's a good SI article supporting Barry's candidacy: Link If you had asked me 5 years ago, I would have said hell no to Barry getting in. But knowing that even the supposed clean guys at the time like A-Rod were using...it was way more wide-spread than we realize. However, I can understand not letting Sosa and McGwire in because they played in an era where homeruns were devalued, and their games didn't offer much else.
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True, but steroids can be used to improve reflexes, stamina, eye sight, etc. not just building strength
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Biggio Trammell Martinez Raines Bagwell Clemens Bonds Piazza |
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I completely agree. My entire point is that if you're going to let in guys who have admittedly used amphetamines, you should let in guys who used steroids too. Both were not against the rules at the time so it seems dumb to just gloss over one and not the other. Conversely, if you're not going to let in guys like Bonds, Clemens, etc, you better kick out guys like Mays and Aaron for using performance enhancers too.
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I feel Piazza used and i'm guessing thats why he's last on your list but Biggio shouldn't get a pass either. Biggio went from hitting 3 or 4 homeruns a year to hitting 20-25 a year. The fact that he played with one of the biggest steroid teams in baseball really makes me wonder about him. Alan Trammell deserves support and I hope he gets in someday but he's not the second most deserving on your list. If your gonna vote for these guys then Bonds is a easy number one. If your deducting for steroids then take off everyone except Raines and Trammell. I hate the era but I do feel at least 75 percent of players used and to put some guys in like Biggio or Piazza is ridiculous. Just because they didn't hit 60 homeruns doesn't mean they weren't using. Lenny Dykstra was a admitted user and steroids turned him into a guy who went from single digit homeruns to 15-20 homeruns. You don't have to hit 60 homeruns to be a steroid user. |
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