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Old 11-14-2012, 07:16 PM
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How do you know he's better than Buck if you don't know his defensive capabilities?
He's a better hitter. He also has way more upside than Buck at this point. This was why I glibly said that he was better.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:12 PM
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He's a better hitter.
Baseball is not an offensive sport.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:10 PM
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Baseball is not an offensive sport.
What do you think was the biggest contributor to keeping the White Sox out of the 2012 playoffs?
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:21 PM
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What do you think was the biggest contributor to keeping the White Sox out of the 2012 playoffs?
Is the answer offense? Because I think the answer is offense. Do I win?
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:52 PM
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Is the answer offense? Because I think the answer is offense. Do I win?
Baseball is not an offensive sport.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:17 AM
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Baseball is not an offensive sport.
Yeah it is. You play to score the most runs to win the game.

Defense and pitching put you in the conversation. Offense is execution of fundamentals and key hits, whether they be hit/run singles, extra base hits, and so on.

The Giants don't have a lot of LTP. But they make contact and get the hits needed to win. The Dodgers can keep spending, but they need to prove that they can get it done when the chips are down.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:51 AM
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If he's a garbage catcher, then he's useless in the catcher discussion even if he can hit.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:17 PM
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I received my bill today to pay off the remainder of my 2013 Season Tickets. I noticed in the ticket brochure that there were numerous photos of White Sox players. There weren't any photos of Adam Dunn. You usually promote your season tickets with your star players for the upcoming season. Perhaps the White Sox think Dunn won't be on the team in 2013. I would like to think he won't be on the team in 2013. We'll see in a couple of weeks. The Winter meetings are coming up and I would think if the White Sox are going to make a major trade, it will happen then.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:17 PM
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Arencibia is an interesting trade possibility but the Jays now have M. Izturis and E. Bonofacio to play second. They don't need Beckham.
Word is that Toronto is looking for another starter even after just getting Johnson and Buehrle,

Floyd for Arencibia? Would not mind that trade one bit.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:35 PM
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Word is that Toronto is looking for another starter even after just getting Johnson and Buehrle,

Floyd for Arencibia? Would not mind that trade one bit.
IIRC there was a rumor last winter that Floyd was going to Toronto for Deck McGuire and a few others. It's a square peg for a square hole.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:37 PM
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:04 PM
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Forget Arencibia, they should trade for Emilio Bonifacio.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:41 AM
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What do you think was the biggest contributor to keeping the White Sox out of the 2012 playoffs?
Ineffective pitching.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:45 AM
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Yeah it is. You play to score the most runs to win the game.
In baseball the other team controls the ball when you are offense, it is not an offensive sport, it never has been.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:00 AM
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Ineffective pitching.
Fair enough, but an honest person also would admit the Sox lost plenty of games in 2012 in which the hitting failed despite the Sox getting a great pitching performance.
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