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Old 11-13-2012, 10:08 PM
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Someone at MLB has to get rid of Loira. This is fantastic news for Toronto but it is bad for Miami and also bad for baseball in Florida.
I think Florida is bad for baseball.

Time to fold or move some teams.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:21 PM
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How good are the prospects the Marlins are getting? I know Loria really screwed the citizens of Miami, but with that attendance, they had to try to trade Buehrle and Reyes. Those contracts are pretty putrid.
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I'm not counting this homerun or his 3 RBI from today's game because of the game situation. I'm not counting his pinch hit solo homerun in a blowout win in Colorado. In my book, Crede has 2 less home runs than his statistics show, 4 less RBI, and one less walk (the one where he pinch hit for Uribe after coming in with a 3-0 count and taking one pitch).
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:36 PM
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Honestly, I think the Marlins are getting the better end of this deal.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:45 PM
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Honestly, I think the Marlins are getting the better end of this deal.
The problem is that the general public won't see it that way. Loria will be buried for this (and rightfully so). The Marlins spent a significant amount of money to improve their roster, so that they could contend in 2012. They also hired a new manager. Now, less than one season removed from that spending spree, the Marlins have traded Hanley Ramirez, Mark Buehrle, and Jose Reyes. Heath Bell was a disaster in the bullpen.

Ozzie Guillen did everything he could to get himself fired the first week of the season. The Marlins decided to keep him around for the entire 2012 campaign before they finally got rid of him, but they're still paying him.

The Marlins enter 2013 with a roster that's significantly worse on paper than what they had in 2012, as Stanton is the only threat in their lineup. The Nationals are an excellent ballclub, and will likely contend again in '13, as will Atlanta. The Phillies were ravaged by injuries and inconsistent play, but still had enough to make a run at the WC before finally falling apart for good. They'll have Howard and Utley back for a full season, and should still be competitive, though their roster is aging.

The Marlins are in trouble, and it's Loria's fault. No one will be interested in seeing how the assets they've acquired from Toronto will work out. People are tired of seeing their money flushed down the toilet.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:06 PM
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Major League would've been a much weirder movie if the ownership got Cleveland to build them a stadium first.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:08 PM
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Selig will kill the deal.











Right after he implements a common sense system for scheduling the season.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:59 PM
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The only remaining question is whether they can avoid 100 losses next season.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:26 AM
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Crasnick thinks they'll lose 110 games and blisters Miami management:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove12/st...eason-2013-mlb

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Old 11-14-2012, 12:52 AM
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I think if their young starters hold up, Toronto will contend. They look very, very deep. Will post a lineup soon.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:30 AM
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http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb


Buehrle & Reyes to Toronto!
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:33 AM
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This trade is not possible. WSI has informed me over the past year that no other team would ever take on Buehrle's contract.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:34 AM
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My bad - could a mod kill this thread. Didn't realize the other had incorporated the trade.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:47 AM
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Man, this kind of makes me wish Ozzie hadn't gotten fired
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:50 AM
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If you can get someone else to pay for your stadium and players, why not?
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:59 AM
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Man, this kind of makes me wish Ozzie hadn't gotten fired
I was thinking the exact same thing.
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