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[doublem23]

Originally Posted by palehozenychicty

I'm not sure what the White Sox plan is at the moment.

Keep trying to win every year?

I know, I know, awful plan.

[palehozenychicty]

Originally Posted by doublem23

Keep trying to win every year?

I know, I know, awful plan.

Not an awful plan, but how are they going to do it? Who are they going to sign that'll make up the 22 games necessary to win it all? They don't do well in the premiere free agent market. They don't have a lot of positional young talent ready to step in. They don't have a lot of assets to trade.

Time will tell, but they're in a corner right now. You can't deny that.

If Danks can recover, then I'm fine with the pitching staff. This is minus Peavy and possibly Floyd.

But I worry about the nine guys on the diamond. Are they good enough? I'm not convinced of that right now.

[doublem23]

Originally Posted by palehozenychicty

Not an awful plan, but how are they going to do it? Who are they going to sign that'll make up the 22 games necessary to win it all? They don't do well in the premiere free agent market. They don't have a lot of positional young talent ready to step in. They don't have a lot of assets to trade.

They only needed to make up 4 games

[Moses_Scurry]

Originally Posted by doublem23

They only needed to make up 4 games

Yeah where does the 22 games come from? I'm sure Danks is more than capable of giving the team the 10 wins or so that Peavy gave them last year. Even if his ERA and other stats aren't as good.

I love that the Sox are not intentionally trying to tank seasons like their neighbors up north, but it would be nice to have some more position players to be excited about. I haven't really had that since Thomas and Ventura ... 20 years ago.

Maybe Hawkins will be enough. How far is he away?

[doublem23]

Originally Posted by Moses_Scurry

Maybe Hawkins will be enough. How far is he away?

Years

[SoxSpeed22]

I would rather not see Hawkins here for at least two years, more like three. We are kind of set at outfield for a while until Rios and Dunn's contracts are up, so Hawkins, Mitchell and Thompson can take their time.

[DumpJerry]

Originally Posted by SoxSpeed22

I would rather not see Hawkins here for at least two years, more like three. We are kind of set at outfield for a while until Rios and Dunn's contracts are up, so Hawkins, Mitchell and Thompson can take their time.

In two years with the White Sox, Dunn has played in the Outfield in seven games.

[doublem23]

Originally Posted by DumpJerry

In two years with the White Sox, Dunn has played in the Outfield in seven games.

Obviously Dunn is not an OF, but his presence prevents the Sox from moving other players into the DH slot (say, like Dayan Viciedo) so he does effectively block young OF until his contract expires.

[CoopaLoop]

Originally Posted by Nellie_Fox

If they see it as possibly their last contract, sure. But, if they worry that their stats will suffer and hurt their next contract, they'll consider taking a little less to play somewhere better suited to them.

Yeah people take a little less in sports all the time.

[Nellie_Fox]

Originally Posted by CoopaLoop

Yeah people take a little less in sports all the time.

If you don't think players have ever turned down more money because they didn't want to play for the team offering it, you haven't been paying attention.

[DSpivack]

Originally Posted by Nellie_Fox

If you don't think players have ever turned down more money because they didn't want to play for the team offering it, you haven't been paying attention.

The Big 3 in Miami in the NBA, Peavy with this deal, Konerko and Dye in past deals with the Sox, etc.

[MUsoxfan]

Originally Posted by DSpivack

The Big 3 in Miami in the NBA, Peavy with this deal, Konerko and Dye in past deals with the Sox, etc.

And AJ and Buehrle in the past

[waldo_the_wolf]

Originally Posted by MUsoxfan

And AJ and Buehrle in the past

And Jose Valentin, he's still one of my all-time faves since he turned down more money from the Orioles after his first year with the Sox just because he loved playing for the Sox so much.

[DSpivack]

Originally Posted by waldo_the_wolf

And Jose Valentin, he's still one of my all-time faves since he turned down more money from the Orioles after his first year with the Sox just because he loved playing for the Sox so much.

He wasn't the greatest of shortstops, but he certainly was fun. Manos!

[mahagga73]

Originally Posted by palehozenychicty

Not an awful plan, but how are they going to do it? Who are they going to sign that'll make up the 22 games necessary to win it all? They don't do well in the premiere free agent market. They don't have a lot of positional young talent ready to step in. They don't have a lot of assets to trade.

Time will tell, but they're in a corner right now. You can't deny that.

If Danks can recover, then I'm fine with the pitching staff. This is minus Peavy and possibly Floyd.

But I worry about the nine guys on the diamond. Are they good enough? I'm not convinced of that right now.

i don't know, the Giants don't look like worldbeaters outside their pitching staff and have won 2 of 3 Series now.