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Way too many strikeouts and RISP situations given away. Way too many 1-2 and 0-2 counts giving the pitcher a distinct advantage. IMO, his head is well below water at the plate. There's more to being an effective hitter than hitting an average number of home runs for the position. I know some of you love the long ball and are willing to give him a pass for that, but you don't for Dunn, and Viciedo is the same kind of hitter, without Dunn's plate patience and walks. |
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2nd half Dunn: .199/.304/.427 Viciedo: .259/.305/.445 Obviously, Viciedo needs to improve his approach and learn to take a pitch. Plenty of 23 year old hitters have. Dunn, on the other hand, has to put up numbers worthy of the middle of the order, and he has shown he's not really capable. His first half would indicate at the least he has to have a very good hitter behind him to be effective.
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He will likely never be a great on base guy, but I certainly have seen enough of him, physically, to believe he will get a lot of extra base hits as he progresses. A .744 OPS isn't fantastic, but it is certainly reasonable for a 23 year old. It is superior to Magglio Ordonez's OPS in his first full season (at 24, mind you) and a little below Carlos Lee's OPS in his first full year. And sure, LF is "the least important" position on the field, but Viciedo absolutely has the arm for RF, if they wanted to play him there. Dayan Viciedo is a talented young man with a bright future. I don't know how anybody who has watched him can't see that. His limitations are not physical, therefor, they can be overcome. Whether he will develop further (as he has every year) remains to be seen. But the same could have been said for every player who has ever played the game.
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I have to agree with this. People see to forget Paulie was among the top 10 hitters in the AL for most of the year. That alone deserves at least a B grade. Yes, Dunn was among the HR and RBI leaders like he was paid to, but his tendency to strike out was often a liability at the worst possible times. It's literally home run or nothing for him. Anything else just doesn't happen. A C grade is about as high as he deserves to go.
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Okay, you have a point there, but that doesn't mask the fact that he still made me nervous as Hell when he came up in key situations, especially after everyone went cold.
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I just think it is unfair to assume he is a finished product at age 23, especially since he has improved since joining the Sox organization. Two years from now, he might be a good offensive player. And, as much crap as you and others give him for his defense, I'll take him in LF over Juan Pierre any day of the week. I'd take him over Carlos Quentin or Carlos Lee, too, from a defensive standpoint. As sully stated, an accurate, strong arm is an important skill in outfield play.
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Dunn did walk a lot, but the funny thing is that he walked less as Konerko was less effective behind him in the order. Pitchers seemed to be giving him more to hit when he had less protection behind him. Fans are putting too big an emphasis on walks and not enough emphais on hitting the ball and making contact. Dunn was the only player in the majors this year to walk more than 100 times, which seems odd enough, but he wasn't even close to the top 10 in on-base percentage. The better teams are doing more actual hitting when they hit. Dunn strudk out more than he reached base (or rounded the bases) on hits and walks combined. And he had a dismal end to his season. That was the biggest problem in the White Sox lineup this year. Complain about Beckham, complain about Viciedo, complain about Konerko, but the regular who was weakest at driving in runners in scoring position was the hitter who was in the lineup because he is supposed to be a run producer. |
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Nice way to work the stats, funny you didn't mention that he also struck out far less frequently in the 2nd half than 1st, even with Garbage Paul Konerko protecting him. So it's clearly not a case of pitchers just lobbing him meatballs and him swinging through them, as you'd apparently like us all to believe. His BABIP also dropped 36 points from .265 to .229, which could possibly indicate that, at least in part, some of his 2nd half struggles can just be chalked up to bad luck (or, if you want to continue your crazed, anti-Dunn fantacism, overly good luck in the 1st half).
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Dunn being bad doesn't excuse Konerko from also being bad. PK had trouble getting the ball out of the infield.
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Dunn didn't even have a very good first half. Fans believed he did because he showed improvement over his first season in a White Sox uniform. And if Konerko was garbage in the second half, he was still a couple of notches above Dunn. You are behind the curve in baseball analysis if you are looking at on-base percentage to the exclusion of batting average because the more successful teams are getting players with higher batting averages contributing to higher on-base percentages. Dunn didn't hit into bad luck, with a few exceptions and probably no more than anyone else on the team. And if he is hitting outs into the shift, he can't complain about hitting into bad luck because he is doing nothing to beat the shift. If you are hitting below .220 and you strike out more than 220 times, you aren't an offensive force as much as you are a black hole in the lineup. If you don't want an offense where everyone is trying to hit a home run every time up, you don't give big money to a defensive liability who tries to hit a home run every time up. |
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