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Old 09-26-2012, 11:54 PM
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Someone (was it Tragg?) commented on how it was a bad idea to start a rookie in this situation and asked why it was done. According to Gonzo in his post game post mortum Robin made the decision in order to give Peavy an extra day of rest. He goes Thursday against Tampa Bay.

Something else I noticed, this started in Baltimore when the Sox started sliding, it seems like a lot of guys who aren't home run hitters are driving balls out of the park off the staff. Cleveland did that the last two nights.

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Old 09-26-2012, 11:58 PM
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Amsteel:

De Aza is not a free agent by the way but I understand your point. I think the only guy out of their current free agents they might sign is A.J. and with the attendance issues I can't see a payroll that allows them to be very active on the free agent market.

But if Hahn takes over, there could be a new dynamic so I can't say with 100% accuracy what may happen.

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:01 AM
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Good look at the Sox 'hit or miss' offense this season:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,4727066.story

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:01 AM
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This is a choke. No one will convince me otherwise. You were in first for a majority of the damn season! You were given opportunity after opportunity, and still couldn't pull through. Maddening as hell.

Oh well, go Bears. But they'll probably find a way to blow it also. Every team in this city does lately anyway.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:01 AM
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De Aza is not a free agent
Source? Cot's has him listed under a 1-year deal.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/co...ts/?page_id=84

Although this from Cots:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/nd...cg&output=html
lists him as an FA in 2016, being arbitration eligible next year. I have no idea what any of this means.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:03 AM
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Soxman 219:

I agree, it's a choke. Everything started to slide in late August. The question is why did it happen and why does it keep happening in the second half for most of the past 10 seasons?

That's the million dollar question. If Hahn can answer that he'll be ahead of the game by a lot moving on in the future.

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:05 AM
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Amsteel:

This came up a few weeks ago and a poster (don't remember who) said you can't trust Cotts and linked to a more "reliable" site that said (if I remember correctly) that he is arbitration eligible.

There were also a few other posters who confirmed it because I remember writing that I didn't know De Aza was a free agent. They said that he wasn't very quickly. I know when listing potential free agents Gonzo has also never mentioned De Aza.

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:05 AM
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This sucks.

Not much else to say that hasn't already been said.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:06 AM
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Soxman 219:

I agree, it's a choke. Everything started to slide in late August. The question is why did it happen and why does it keep happening in the second half for most of the past 10 seasons?

That's the million dollar question. If Hahn can answer that he'll be ahead of the game by a lot moving on in the future.

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I feel ya, it's like every 2nd half the Sox play worse. Something must be done!
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:07 AM
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Source? Cot's has him listed under a 1-year deal.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/co...ts/?page_id=84

Although this from Cots:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/nd...cg&output=html
lists him as an FA in 2016, being arbitration eligible next year. I have no idea what any of this means.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:07 AM
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Wasn't the manager, so what else can it be?
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:13 AM
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It happened because this team's "MVP" has an OBP of .329. That's not good enough to be in the top 75.

Too many power hitters who can't get on base is what we have been seeing for weeks.

Edit: That sentence may not read well. Having a lot of power hitters is not a problem. Having a bunch of low OBP guys is.

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:18 AM
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Someone (was it Tragg?) commented on how it was a bad idea to start a rookie in this situation and asked why it was done. According to Gonzo in his post game post mortum Robin made the decision in order to give Peavy an extra day of rest. He goes Thursday against Tampa Bay.
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So we lost anyway. All we can do is go 1-1 on that bit of strategy.
It reminds me of when they did rotation shifting before one of the series in Detroit. We lost the game in which we shifted the pitcher to set up the Detroit series....then we got swept in Detroit.
The clowning isn't helping.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:21 AM
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Santiago had gone 5 innings of one run ball and 4 innings of no run ball in last two outings. I am ok with that move considering this rotation after Sale.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:22 AM
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I will also point out, that this maneuver has now excluded Sale from the tie-breaker game in Detroit (assuming that it's played on that Thursday). It was set up perfectly for him to pitch it.
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