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Old 09-11-2012, 01:57 PM
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That starts a reshuffle of the whole lineup, which is apparently what they're trying to avoid. I don't really have an opinion as to whether they're right or wrong, but they want to keep everybody in their same slots until Dunn returns.
Wise has batted 3rd only the last 2 games, its not like they are adjusting a lineup that has been set for a long period of time.
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:01 PM
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That starts a reshuffle of the whole lineup, which is apparently what they're trying to avoid. I don't really have an opinion as to whether they're right or wrong, but they want to keep everybody in their same slots until Dunn returns.
Yeah, I don't really know what to think here, other than I hope to see a White Sox victory. Wise's bat has actually been decent in this stint with the Sox, which has been a nice if temporary surprise. I don't like him batting third, but I hope Dunn gets back soon. If anything I do like having Wise in LF and Viciedo at DH, to improve an already strong defense.
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:02 PM
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Apparently Dunn may be done for the season.
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I think Dunn is one player whose absence wouldn't be that devastating.
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:05 PM
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Tdog's dream will finally come true!

I think Dunn is one player whose absence wouldn't be that devastating.
He's 4th on the team in OBP, 4th in slugging, 4th in OPS, and 1st in HRs and RsBI. It'd be a pretty big loss.

Wise has been good in his brief current stint with the Sox, but relying on him to keep up the numbers he has posted thus far (.287/.333/.465) seems an unlikely proposition.
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:19 PM
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If Dunn is done for the year then that is a huge blow. I know that's an obvious statement but man, not good news to hear. I really hope he can come back and help us. In the meantime I'm surprised Tank isn't hitting 3rd but I guess he doesn't really work pitchers the way Wise does (can't believe I'm typing that)
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:25 PM
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I think Dunn is one player whose absence wouldn't be that devastating.
Given the replacements, it's especially bad.
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:29 PM
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Dunn during a hot streak would be horrible to lose. Dunn during a slump?
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:43 PM
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Dunn during a hot streak would be horrible to lose. Dunn during a slump?
Isn't that true of any streaky player?
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:53 PM
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Isn't that true of any streaky player?
Or really, every player in baseball history?

I mean, ****, even Dewayne Wise had about a week or so there were he was playing like an All-Star.
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:09 PM
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Or really, every player in baseball history?

I mean, ****, even Dewayne Wise had about a week or so there were he was playing like an All-Star.
Yup.

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Old 09-11-2012, 03:36 PM
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Wise has batted 3rd only the last 2 games, its not like they are adjusting a lineup that has been set for a long period of time.
You missed the point. What Robin has been doing is plugging the replacement player into the three hole, rather than moving one of the every-day players out of his accustomed spot in the lineup to the three, then moving other guys to account for that movement, and so on. All he did was replace Dunn with a bench guy every day, leaving everybody else where they had been.

If it's true that Dunn is through for the year, he may reconsider shuffling the lineup. And for those who are pointing out what a huge loss Dunn is due to OPS, RBI, etc., take a look at his month by month splits. He was heading seriously downhill as the season progressed. His August numbers were terrible.
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:44 PM
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You missed the point. What Robin has been doing is plugging the replacement player into the three hole, rather than moving one of the every-day players out of his accustomed spot in the lineup to the three, then moving other guys to account for that movement, and so on. All he did was replace Dunn with a bench guy every day, leaving everybody else where they had been.

If it's true that Dunn is through for the year, he may reconsider shuffling the lineup. And for those who are pointing out what a huge loss Dunn is due to OPS, RBI, etc., take a look at his month by month splits. He was heading seriously downhill as the season progressed. His August numbers were terrible.
Which to me indicates he has been hurt for a while now and was playing through the pain.
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:01 PM
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If it's true that Dunn is through for the year, he may reconsider shuffling the lineup. And for those who are pointing out what a huge loss Dunn is due to OPS, RBI, etc., take a look at his month by month splits. He was heading seriously downhill as the season progressed. His August numbers were terrible.
My assumption is that Dunn is out for the year, I only mentioned Wise in the 3 slot after reading that Dunns mri was not clear. And yes I know what happens when one assumes.
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:48 PM
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Dunn took light swings in clubhouse, seemed fine. Santiago likely to start Friday at Minn.

Dunn had an injection, will try to swing a bat Wednesday.

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Dunn improved. Caution is the word.

Dan Hayes
Dunn definitely better. Baseball activities have increased, but he's still not to point of taking outdoor BP. #WhiteSox cautious.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:41 PM
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Which to me indicates he has been hurt for a while now and was playing through the pain.
They know exactly which checked swing he hurt himself on. His July numbers were bad, his August numbers were terrible. It wasn't because of this injury.
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