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Old 01-25-2012, 12:35 PM
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Every team needs at least one jerk.
Wow. I had no idea his reputation. Sounds like a cool dude.
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Old 01-25-2012, 12:36 PM
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Daver does know a lot about the system, I'd like to hear his opinion of the moves today.
I have no idea who your source is, but considering the fact that pitching is the only thing the Sox have developed to any extent in the last five years, I'd say he is dead wrong on Kirk, and that would make me question any other part of his opinion.
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Old 01-25-2012, 01:43 PM
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Former #Marlins & #Nationals starter Scott Olsen has signed minor league deal w/ #WhiteSox. Deal includes big league option for 2013
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Olsen didn't pitch last year. He had shoulder problems and #Pirates released him in May. He's 37-49, 4.85 in the big leagues.
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He's a local boy. From Crystal Lake.
I like the signing. Low risk, and some insurance in case of injury. I would assume he'll compete for the second lefty out of the pen, even though he has been used pretty exclusively as a starter in the past.
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Old 01-25-2012, 01:49 PM
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I have no idea who your source is, but considering the fact that pitching is the only thing the Sox have developed to any extent in the last five years, I'd say he is dead wrong on Kirk, and that would make me question any other part of his opinion.
I agree with this statement, the Sox have had some success with developing pitchers as of late. Developing hitters is an altogether different story.
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Old 01-25-2012, 01:56 PM
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I like the signing. Low risk, and some insurance in case of injury. I would assume he'll compete for the second lefty out of the pen, even though he has been used pretty exclusively as a starter in the past.
He didn't receive an invite to big league camp for spring training.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:08 PM
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MLB.com's Jonathan Mayo has his Top 100 Prospect List out.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/

White Sox have 1 prospect on it. Coming in at the last spot, #100, Addison Reed.
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Old 01-25-2012, 11:01 PM
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I agree with this statement, the Sox have had some success with developing pitchers as of late. Developing hitters is an altogether different story.
When you give them one season in the minors to acclimate to pro pitching you are setting them up to fail.
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MLB.com's Jonathan Mayo has his Top 100 Prospect List out.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/

White Sox have 1 prospect on it. Coming in at the last spot, #100, Addison Reed.

To the surprise of absolutely no one.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:47 AM
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When you give them one season in the minors to acclimate to pro pitching you are setting them up to fail.
If a player is able to maintain dominance with each successive promotion, I don't see how this is setting them up to fail. Players physical abilities and mental makeup determine their fate, there is no perfect scheme for getting pitchers to the majors. If there was, every team would do that exact pattern.
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Old 01-26-2012, 02:58 PM
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I like the signing. Low risk, and some insurance in case of injury. I would assume he'll compete for the second lefty out of the pen, even though he has been used pretty exclusively as a starter in the past.
Low risk indeed, but he's also a huge head case. Carlos Zambrano bad.
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Some good stuff from SoxFest that I missed:


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Hahn says the Sox will spend more on the draft and internationally with the new CBA. #SoxFest
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Hahn says you will see dramatic increase in international signings due to marco paddy and stablizing the skimming scandal
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Laumann says he expects more high school guys to be drafted here in the future.
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Hahn says all clubs use scouting and sabermetrics... Its like peanut butter and jelly, you got both so why choose just one
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Draft order is set through the first 53 picks. The Buehrle comp pick comes in at the 48th selection.


First Round

1. Astros
2. Twins
3. Mariners
4. Orioles
5. Royals
6. Cubs
7. Padres
8. Pirates
9. Marlins
10. Rockies
11. Athletics
12. Mets
13. White Sox
14. Reds
15. Indians
16. Nationals
17. Blue Jays
18. Dodgers
19. Cardinals (from Angels for Albert Pujols, Type A)
20. Giants
21. Braves
22. Blue Jays (for failure to sign 2011 first-rounder Tyler Beede)
23. Cardinals
24. Red Sox
25. Rays
26. Diamondbacks
27. Brewers (from Tigers for Prince Fielder, Type A)
28. Brewers
29. Rangers
30. Yankees
31. Red Sox (from Phillies for Jonathan Papelbon, Type A)


Supplemental First Round

32. Twins (for Michael Cuddyer, modified Type A, to Rockies)
33. Padres (for Heath Bell, modified Type A, to Marlins)
34. Athletics (for Josh Willingham, modified Type A, to Twins)
35. Mets (for Jose Reyes, Type A, to Marlins)
36. Cardinals (for Pujols)
37. Red Sox (for Papelbon)
38. Brewers (for Fielder)
39. Rangers (for C.J. Wilson, Type A, to Angels)
40. Phillies (for Ryan Madson, modified Type A, to Reds)
41. Astros (for Clint Barmes, Type B, to Pirates)
42. Twins (for Jason Kubel, Type B, to Diamondbacks)
43. Cubs (for Aramis Ramirez, Type B, to Brewers)
44. Padres (for Aaron Harang, Type B, to Dodgers)
45. Pirates (for Ryan Doumit, Type B, to Twins)
46. Rockies (for Mark Ellis, Type B, to Dodgers)
47. Athletics (for David DeJesus, Type B, to Cubs)
48. White Sox (for Mark Buehrle, Type B, to Marlins)
49. Reds (for Ramon Hernandez, Type B, to Rockies)
50. Blue Jays (for Frank Francisco, Type B, to Mets)
51. Dodgers (for Rod Barajas, Type B, to Pirates)
52. Cardinals (for Octavio Dotel, Type B, to Tigers)
53. Rangers (for Darren Oliver, Type B, to Blue Jays)
54. Cubs (for Carlos Pena, Type B, to Rays)
55. Padres (for failure to sign 2011 sandwich-rounder Brett Austin)
56. Reds (for Francisco Cordero, Type B, to Blue Jays)
57. Blue Jays (for Jon Rauch, Type B, to Mets)
58. Blue Jays (for Jose Molina, Type B, to Rays)


Second-Round Changes

60. Athletics (for Willingham)
68. Padres (for Bell)
69. Mets (from Marlins for Reyes)
70. Twins (for Cuddyer)
75. Phillies (for Madson)
81. Rangers (from Angels for Wilson)
89. Yankees (for failure to sign 2011 second-rounder Sam Stafford)


Supplemental Third Round

124. Mariners (for failure to sign 2011 third-rounder Kevin Cron)
125. Marlins (for failure to sign 2011 third-rounder Connor Barron)
126. Rockies (for failure to sign 2011 third-rounder Peter O'Brien)


Remaining Compensation Free Agents:

Cardinals: Edwin Jackson (B).
Phillies: Raul Ibanez (B).
Pirates: Derrek Lee (B).
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:47 PM
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Laumann and Paddy are heading to the DR to scout players for the upcoming signing period (with the new CBA restrictions), starting July 2nd. Also notes that Cespedes is likely too expensive, but the White Sox are interested in Concepcion and Soler. Soler would be a huge get.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,1733235.story

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Old 02-08-2012, 12:56 PM
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Keith Law's farm system rankings are up. (Keith Law sucks, yes I know.) White Sox are last, and he says it's not even close. Not that it's a surprise at this point.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:53 PM
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Keith Law's farm system rankings are up. (Keith Law sucks, yes I know.) White Sox are last, and he says it's not even close. Not that it's a surprise at this point.
So the additions of Molina and Castro have done nothing to improve the farm? Not even better than the likes of the Marlins and Astros...

I am not shocked, but I guess a little surprised that those two (now number 2 and 3, respectively in SOX farm) didn't boost the farm even a tad. I guess it just shows how absolutely terrible it was going into this offseason.
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