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If I read it right, the author seems to think Kenny is abandoning his "gambling" approach with his latest moves.
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I sure hope that Kenny's outlook has changed. The great value of prospects and cheap homegrown talent has become more and more apparent over the years and Kenny has lagged behind in that regard. He certainly has a while to go though. The farm is still barren, and all he's added is Nestor Molina and a bunch of "C" prospects. Simon Castro returning to form would be a big get. Either way, plenty of work needs to be done. Hitting on the 13th pick this summer is very important. I'd also like to see Floyd dealt if he can bring back another "B" prospect and some lower level pieces. The model to success that so many clubs employ is a combination of homegrown talent and free agent pieces. It doesn't have to be one or the other, which many people seem to think is what's advocated when desiring a good farm system. A good farm will augment the big league club, not replace it entirely.
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What the Red Sox, Yankees, Angels and Rangers do means very little to the White Sox. The Sox compete with Detroit, Cleveland and Minneapolis and maybe once again Kansas City. NYY spends - Boston tries to keep up - well fine the markets can support it. BUT what those teams wind up doing should not effect the White Sox one iota. The AL Central was designed by Selig to help one team.....and one owner...and in 2005 it worked...otherwise not exactly. Going into 2012 I feel for KW - ( and JR as well ) - Rios and Dunn on paper looked like a slam dunk in 2011. But for the love of gawd can White Sox fans ignore what happens in the AL East ( and now the West) and just focus on the Central???? Last edited by Fenway; 01-10-2012 at 08:43 AM. |
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No, not really. I'm also finding it odd how you consider how the AL Central was created to help the White Sox. Where's your proof on that one?
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Nevermind in the playoffs. We play them at least twice a year during the regular season, too!
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And while it is true that the White Sox do play NYY, Bos, Tex and Anaheim during the season - so do the other teams in the Central. The Twins didn't dominate because the Pohlad's were spending money, they simply had better baseball people. The Tigers may overspend now because Mike Ilitch wants to win before he dies. Ilitch also doesn't mind if his teams lose money because fans flocking downtown will wind up spending money at other venues that he owns. (casino, Hockeytown etc). The Tigers and Twins are drawing better at the gate, but they also have the advantage of being the only team in the market and playing downtown. It boggles the mind that the White Sox can not put back to back playoff runs together. But for whatever reason JR will not clean house and bring in new people top to bottom. Just look at 2 proud hockey teams that floundered for decades - the Blackhawks and Bruins. Nothing changed until the front office was cleaned out. Ponder this over your morning coffee - if KW was fired this afternoon how many teams would be calling him to make him their GM? The whole concept of the three divisions can be traced back the White Sox being fed up with being in the AL West. When Fay Vincent tried to change the divisions he wound up getting fired because the Tribune did not want to see the Cubs being moved. Of course then you had the insanity of St. Louis being in the East and Atlanta in the west. The White Sox wound up being screwed when they were sent to the AL West in 1969 but at least then it was a pure geographic move - but the story I was told than in 1972 it was the Brewers who were moved East and not the White Sox simply because the powers than ran MLB just assumed the White Sox would soon leave Chicago. |
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I have found it odd that the organization is full of former Sox players: Williams, Ventura, Thigpen, Dotson, Boston, seven years of Walker. ....are these really the best baseball minds out there that will get the best talent out of this organization? Or is a matter of loyalty trumping accountability?
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For all I know, all these former players really are the best baseball people out there. But, I have my doubts that is really the case. The only shake up I can think of in recent years was in 2008 when they hired Buddy Bell for their minor league system. That was something like 4 years ago now and the Sox are just as devoid of talent as ever. |
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Doubts were expressed at the time in both cases, and in my opinion the Sox knew or should have known exactly what they were getting (a head case with occasional flashes of talent and a one-dimensional player tipping into decline). Williams' response was the same as the majority of the fan base: crossed fingers and rolled dice. Hope is not a plan.
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Ha, right, that's pretty much every team's plan.
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