White Sox Interactive Forums
Minor Observations

Welcome
Go Back   White Sox Interactive Forums > Baseball Discussions > Minor Observations
Home Chat Stats Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 06-14-2011, 11:46 PM
SoxSpeed22 SoxSpeed22 is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,572
Default

Viciedo has played in 10 straight days, so maybe he just needed a day off.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-15-2011, 12:07 AM
DirtySox DirtySox is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Albany Park
Posts: 11,154
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrCrawdad View Post
I see that Viciedo did not play on Tuesday night for the Knights. Dayan on his way to MN?
Dayan is in Chicago to finalize his citizenship.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-15-2011, 10:25 AM
JermaineDye05 JermaineDye05 is offline
WSI Prelate
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Geneva, IL
Posts: 15,126
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtySox View Post
Dayan is in Chicago to finalize his citizenship.
Yeah, that was in the article that was posted originally.

Dayan won't be up here until there's a significant injury to either TCQ, PK, Dunn, or Pierre. Or until Ozzie finally realizes that Juan Pierre sucks and is hurting the team.
__________________


"See you on a dark night."
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-15-2011, 12:21 PM
JB98's Avatar
JB98 JB98 is offline
WSI Guru
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Crystal Lake, IL
Posts: 27,013
Default

Leadoff hitter is not a position. Choose your best nine guys, then decide what order they are going to hit in.

Viciedo is likely among our best nine guys. If so, it's a shame he's rotting at Charlotte when there is a winnable Central division there for the taking.
__________________
JB's attendance record:
2004: 14-5; 2005: 16-8; 2006: 19-10; 2007: 8-12; 2008: 15-7; 2009: 6-13; 2010: 12-11; 2011: 9-8; 2012: 11-7; 2013: 8-9; 2014: 2-1; Total: 120-91.
Next game: April 26 vs. Tampa Bay

R
ead my new baseball blog: http://thebaseballkid98.blogspot.com/

Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-15-2011, 12:50 PM
DirtySox DirtySox is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Albany Park
Posts: 11,154
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB98 View Post
Leadoff hitter is not a position. Choose your best nine guys, then decide what order they are going to hit in.
Preaching to the choir.

This article is spot on.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 06-16-2011, 08:05 PM
DrCrawdad DrCrawdad is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Valley Of The Malls
Posts: 7,324
Default

It's time to bring up Viciedo. Time for Rios and/or Pierre to sit. The solution to me is ...

LF Viciedo
CF LilliHammer
RF TCQ

Lead off with LilliHammer, TCM or whomever (does it really matter at this point seeing as how we have a lead-off man who rarely gets on base and when he does he's a liability on the bases, could it be worse?)
__________________

DrCrawdad
"In time you can turn these obsessions into careers...Hurry Down Doomsday the bugs are taking over." - Elvis Costello
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 06-16-2011, 08:35 PM
Daver's Avatar
Daver Daver is offline
The Grand Wazoo
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: SW Suburbs
Posts: 26,631
Blog Entries: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrCrawdad View Post
It's time to bring up Viciedo. Time for Rios and/or Pierre to sit. The solution to me is ...

LF Viciedo
CF LilliHammer
RF TCQ

Lead off with LilliHammer, TCM or whomever (does it really matter at this point seeing as how we have a lead-off man who rarely gets on base and when he does he's a liability on the bases, could it be worse?)
That could very well be the worst defensive outfield seen in MLB in the last quarter century.

Anything hit out of the infield will be an adventure, but it might force Ken Harrelson to lose the "can of corn" phrase, so it does have a possible upside.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 06-16-2011, 08:37 PM
JB98's Avatar
JB98 JB98 is offline
WSI Guru
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Crystal Lake, IL
Posts: 27,013
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daver View Post
That could very well be the worst defensive outfield seen in MLB in the last quarter century.

Anything hit out of the infield will be an adventure, but it might force Ken Harrelson to lose the "can of corn" phrase, so it does have a possible upside.
We have the worst defensive outfield in MLB as it stands. On top of it, two of the three can't hit.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 06-16-2011, 08:59 PM
Daver's Avatar
Daver Daver is offline
The Grand Wazoo
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: SW Suburbs
Posts: 26,631
Blog Entries: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB98 View Post
We have the worst defensive outfield in MLB as it stands. On top of it, two of the three can't hit.
Baseball is not an offensive sport.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 06-16-2011, 09:04 PM
DrCrawdad DrCrawdad is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Valley Of The Malls
Posts: 7,324
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daver View Post
That could very well be the worst defensive outfield seen in MLB in the last quarter century.

Anything hit out of the infield will be an adventure, but it might force Ken Harrelson to lose the "can of corn" phrase, so it does have a possible upside.
Are you saying that Rios is substantially better in CF over LilliHammer?

After watching Rios the last couple years I've come to the conclusion that his defense is vastly overrated.

And Pierre vs. Viciedo in LF? Well I've not seen Viciedo play LF but he has been playing RF in AAA. You'd NEVER play Pierre in RF, I doubt they'd do that even in AAA. But besides that Pierre is marginal in LF. I don't think there would be much of a difference between Pierre and Viciedo.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 06-16-2011, 09:37 PM
Daver's Avatar
Daver Daver is offline
The Grand Wazoo
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: SW Suburbs
Posts: 26,631
Blog Entries: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrCrawdad View Post
Are you saying that Rios is substantially better in CF over LilliHammer?

After watching Rios the last couple years I've come to the conclusion that his defense is vastly overrated.

And Pierre vs. Viciedo in LF? Well I've not seen Viciedo play LF but he has been playing RF in AAA. You'd NEVER play Pierre in RF, I doubt they'd do that even in AAA. But besides that Pierre is marginal in LF. I don't think there would be much of a difference between Pierre and Viciedo.
Yes, Rios is a true CFer.

Pierre is a career outfielder, and knows all aspects of the position, Dayan is an infielder that has played roughly 40 games in one of the smallest outfields in professional baseball, you're comparing grapes to watermelons.

But this whole concept does not surprise me at all, a good chunk of the posters here scream for replacing starters that aren't hitting, and then bitch and moan because of the lack of fundamentals, you can't have it both ways.

The Twins run all over Sox pitching and everyone bitches about AJ's poor defense, completely ignoring the fact that his defense is the exact same as it was when he was first signed, but where is the finger pointing at the pitchers that can't look back a runner to save their lives?


Carry on, nothing more to see here.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 06-16-2011, 09:48 PM
DrCrawdad DrCrawdad is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Valley Of The Malls
Posts: 7,324
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daver View Post
Yes, Rios is a true CFer.
Maybe since the Sox picked up Rios but when he was with Toronto he played RF most of the time, by far. In fact in his career games RF vs. CF:

720 RF
348 CF

After 7 years in MLB, where he was a corner outfielder, the Sox switched him to CF. I stand by my comment, Rios CF defense is vastly overrated. Rios is putting up offensive numbers this season worse than what lead to Brian Anderson losing his position with the White Sox.

Last edited by DrCrawdad; 06-16-2011 at 10:04 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 06-16-2011, 10:31 PM
Daver's Avatar
Daver Daver is offline
The Grand Wazoo
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: SW Suburbs
Posts: 26,631
Blog Entries: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrCrawdad View Post
Maybe since the Sox picked up Rios but when he was with Toronto he played RF most of the time, by far. In fact in his career games RF vs. CF:

720 RF
348 CF

After 7 years in MLB, where he was a corner outfielder, the Sox switched him to CF. I stand by my comment, Rios CF defense is vastly overrated. Rios is putting up offensive numbers this season worse than what lead to Brian Anderson losing his position with the White Sox.

Baseball is not an offensive sport, and Brian is a better CFer than Alex is, but Alex is still a better alternative to a converted infielder.

Other than that I really don't see what point you are trying to make outside of offense, which has nothing to do with what I posted in this thread.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 06-16-2011, 10:48 PM
Noneck Noneck is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Nw Side
Posts: 6,715
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daver View Post
Baseball is not an offensive sport
The Sox are playing this sport in an offensive manner.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 06-16-2011, 10:50 PM
CHISOXFAN13 CHISOXFAN13 is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Oak Lawn
Posts: 5,276
Default

Dayan with three more hits, including a homer tonight.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Forum Jump




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:26 AM.




Design by: Michelle

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Site-specific editorial/photos Copyright ©2001 - 2008 White Sox Interactive. All rights reserved.