Dayan Viciedo a 10 Million Dollar Conversation

[DonnieDarko]

Originally Posted by DirtySox

Maybe.

He has a long way to go.

That reminds me. What's the current word on Viciedo? How has he progressed in his development and all?

[DirtySox]

I think it's discussed in this thread as well as others.

He didn't have a very good first half, but he had a decent second half. Hasn't shown much power at all, is reportedly still out of shape, was a butcher at 3rd, doesn't walk, has bad pitch recognition, and will swing at anything. On the plus side, he still has tremendous power potential and very good bat speed. Overall he had an underwhelming year, but he gets a mulligan for being young for the league and having to acclimate to a whole new place and way of life.

One would hope to see better performance in the upcoming AFL and next season.

[oeo]

Viciedo is 5-for-13 with a HR, a 2B, 4 RBI's, and 6 R's in his first three games of the AFL. He's played third base in all three games.

[Lundind1]

My dad was in Jacksonville Fl a few weeks ago and saw the Barrons take on the Suns. He said that he has watched a lot of minor league baseball and thinks that Viciedo has a huge upside. He said that Dayan will be a good ballplayer, not to expect him to zoom to the majors like Beckham did, and he will make an impact at the major league level in one form or another.

[voodoochile]

He's playing in the Fall League and has posted an OPS of 1.0+ over his first 13 AB with a walk a homer, a double, 5 hits and 6 runs scored to go along with his 4 K's. It's obviously early and so are the offensive numbers are through the roof all across the board - Viciedo's OPS is only 16th in the league so far.

Good that he's playing though. Anything that furthers his development is a good idea.

[BleacherBandit]

Sorry, I'm late to this discussion. Are they persistant on having him play third base? I thought he was going to be fitted as an outfielder because of our inundated situation in the infield.

[Craig Grebeck]

Originally Posted by BleacherBandit

Sorry, I'm late to this discussion. Are they persistant on having him play third base? I thought he was going to be fitted as an outfielder because of our inundated situation in the infield.

They would move him because of a lack of mobility. They might as well give him an opportunity to become a good third baseman before moving him off. Also, I'd imagine they want to see some decent offensive production before they move him to first base or left field.

[DirtySox]

Originally Posted by voodoochile

He's playing in the Fall League and has posted an OPS of 1.0+ over his first 13 AB with a walk a homer, a double, 5 hits and 6 runs scored to go along with his 4 K's. It's obviously early and so are the offensive numbers are through the roof all across the board - Viciedo's OPS is only 16th in the league so far.

Good that he's playing though. Anything that furthers his development is a good idea.

Yep. He has had a decent showing so far. But for those who aren't aware, the AFL is a notorious hitter's league.

[voodoochile]

Originally Posted by Craig Grebeck

They would move him because of a lack of mobility. They might as well give him an opportunity to become a good third baseman before moving him off. Also, I'd imagine they want to see some decent offensive production before they move him to first base or left field.

There's an article on the Trib's site that actually comments on some nice plays he made at third the other day.

[Frater Perdurabo]

Given KW's proclivity for trading prospects, I would not be surprised if the Sox want him to stay at 3B right now. If his bat develops as they expect/hope, he would have more value as a third baseman than as a LF or 1B.

[Lip Man 1]

Viciedo has been shut down for the rest of the season according to the Tribune today. He's been replaced on the Fall season roster due to inflammation of the elbow.

Lip

[Waysouthsider]

How serious is this inflammation issue, anyone know?

[Waysouthsider]

I saw Lip's interview with MG today....I think those guys are right...I'll expect to see Viciedo in the corner of the outfield at some point this year.

I can't imagine keeping the kid in the minors when they need big bats in Chicago AND they are paying the dough for him. I just hope he doesn't implode if they rush him up to the bigs.

[cws05champ]

Originally Posted by Waysouthsider

I saw Lip's interview with MG today....I think those guys are right...I'll expect to see Viciedo in the corner of the outfield at some point this year.

I can't imagine keeping the kid in the minors when they need big bats in Chicago AND they are paying the dough for him. I just hope he doesn't implode if they rush him up to the bigs.

Just because they are paying him ($1.25M next year) doesn't mean they'll rush him up if he is not ready. That wouldn't help the team or Dayan's confidence. And he really hasn't shown a big bat yet. Great bat speed, but it hasn't translated into a ton of power yet.

[Craig Grebeck]

Originally Posted by Waysouthsider

I saw Lip's interview with MG today....I think those guys are right...I'll expect to see Viciedo in the corner of the outfield at some point this year.

I can't imagine keeping the kid in the minors when they need big bats in Chicago AND they are paying the dough for him. I just hope he doesn't implode if they rush him up to the bigs.

What the hell does his salary have to do with his arrival in the majors? If anything, the fact that we've put to much money into him is evidence that he won't be here until he's ready.

He's shown flashes but I don't expect to see him until mid-2011, in all honesty. If he makes drastic improvements I'd expect a September call-up this season.