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Old 10-06-2009, 07:54 PM
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Default For The Decade - Winning Seasons / Playoff Appearances

Winning Seasons…

For the decade that’s just ended its final regular season game. Here’s how they stack up relative to each other.

10 winning seasons:
Yankees (current streak 17 consecutive years. Last losing season was 1992. The 17 straight years ties the White Sox (1951-1967) for the 3rd longest streak in MLB history) 9 Playoff Appearances
Boston (current streak 12 consecutive years. Last losing season was 1997) 6 Playoff Appearances
*Money talks don’t it?

9 winning seasons:
St. Louis (only losing season in decade was 2007) 7 Playoff Appearances
Dodgers (only losing season in decade was 2005) 4 Playoff Appearances

8 winning seasons:
Atlanta (losing seasons in 2006 and 2008) 6 Playoff Appearances
Angels (last losing season was 2003) 6 Playoff Appearances
Philadelphia (last losing season was 2002) 3 Playoff Appearances
Minnesota (had a stretch of six straight winning seasons 2001 through 2006) 5 Playoff Appearances

7 winning seasons:
White Sox (two of the last three years, 2007 & 2009 have been losing one’s) 3 Playoff Appearances
Oakland (last winning season was 2006) 5 Playoff Appearances
Houston (two of the last three years, 2007 & 2009 have been losing one’s) 3 Playoff Appearances

6 winning seasons:
Mets 2 Playoff Appearances
San Francisco (2009 was first winning season since 2004) 3 Playoff Appearances
Arizona 3 Playoff Appearances
Cubs (last losing season was 2006) 3 Playoff Appearances
Seattle (missed playoffs twice in decade despite winning over 90 games) 2 Playoff Appearances

5 winning seasons:
Toronto 0 Playoff Appearances
Florida (surprisingly they have had winning seasons in five of the last seven years) 1 Playoff Appearance

4 winning seasons:
Cleveland (for a franchise that has a hard time even having a winning season they get a lot of pre season publicity about how they’ll be going to the postseason from the national media.) 2 Playoff Appearances
San Diego (all winning seasons came between 2004 and 2007) 2 Playoff Appearances

3 winning seasons:
Colorado (two of the last three years have been winning one’s) 2 Playoff Appearances
Detroit (three of the last four years have been winning one’s) 1 Playoff Appearance

2 winning seasons:
Montreal / Washington (both came when the franchise was in Montreal in 2002 & 2003) 0 Playoff Appearances
Texas (winning seasons in 2004 & 2009) 0 Playoff Appearances
Milwaukee (winning seasons in 2007 & 2008) 1 Playoff Appearance
Tampa (winning seasons in 2008 & 2009) 1 Playoff Appearance

1 winning season:
Cincinnati (only winning season came in 2000) 0 Playoff Appearances
Kansas City (only winning season came in 2003) 0 Playoff Appearances

NO winning seasons:
Baltimore (last winning season came in 1997. Current losing season streak stands at 12 years.)
Pittsburgh (last winning season came in 1992. Current losing season streak stands at 17 years, a major league record.)

13 National League teams made the postseason in the decade, 10 American League ones did. The Yankees and Red Sox accounted for 15 of the 40 available spots in the A.L. over the decade; 37.5%.

Finally the White Sox remain the only one out of the original 16 (pre expansion) teams to have never made the post season in consecutive years.
A.L. original teams: St.Louis/Baltimore, Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Philadelphia/Kansas City / Oakland, New York, Washington/Minnesota.
N.L. original teams: Chicago, Cincinnati, Brooklyn/Los Angeles, Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, New York/San Francisco, St. Louis.

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Old 10-06-2009, 08:02 PM
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Wow, I didn't realize that the Dodgers have had nine winning seasons since 2000.
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:15 PM
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wow, the Pirates have been really dismal for a long time ... and they were such a powerhouse back in the 60s and 70s, who could forget their comeback WS win (from down 3-1) over the Earl Weaver's favored O's
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:57 PM
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Also....

The White Sox finished 111-68 against the Kansas City Royals this decade, good for a .620 winning percentage, their best record against any AL team in this decade. They also finished 111-69 against the Tigers from 2000-2009, which is good for a .617 winning percentage.

Their best overall record against any opponent since 2000 (with a minimum of 10 games played) was against the Cincinnati Reds. The Sox went 11-1 against them.

The team that seemed to beat the Sox more often than not was, you guessed it, the Oakland A's. They finished 33-54 against them in this decade, which translates to a .379 win percentage.

More here: http://www.baseball-reference.com/ga...&submit=Submit
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:14 AM
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Sox didn't have a bad decade-not Yankee-esque to be sure, but an improvement over previous years. I'll take it over the 70s. Hope that even better things happen starting in 2010.
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:27 AM
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Winning Seasons…

For the decade that’s just ended its final regular season game. Here’s how they stack up relative to each other.

10 winning seasons:
Yankees (current streak 17 consecutive years. Last losing season was 1992. The 17 straight years ties the White Sox (1951-1967) for the 3rd longest streak in MLB history) 9 Playoff Appearances
Boston (current streak 12 consecutive years. Last losing season was 1997) 6 Playoff Appearances
*Money talks don’t it?

9 winning seasons:
St. Louis (only losing season in decade was 2007) 7 Playoff Appearances
Dodgers (only losing season in decade was 2005) 4 Playoff Appearances

8 winning seasons:
Atlanta (losing seasons in 2006 and 2008) 6 Playoff Appearances
Angels (last losing season was 2003) 6 Playoff Appearances
Philadelphia (last losing season was 2002) 3 Playoff Appearances
Minnesota (had a stretch of six straight winning seasons 2001 through 2006) 5 Playoff Appearances

7 winning seasons:
White Sox (two of the last three years, 2007 & 2009 have been losing one’s) 3 Playoff Appearances
Oakland (last winning season was 2006) 5 Playoff Appearances
Houston (two of the last three years, 2007 & 2009 have been losing one’s) 3 Playoff Appearances

6 winning seasons:
Mets 2 Playoff Appearances
San Francisco (2009 was first winning season since 2004) 3 Playoff Appearances
Arizona 3 Playoff Appearances
Cubs (last losing season was 2006) 3 Playoff Appearances
Seattle (missed playoffs twice in decade despite winning over 90 games) 2 Playoff Appearances

5 winning seasons:
Toronto 0 Playoff Appearances
Florida (surprisingly they have had winning seasons in five of the last seven years) 1 Playoff Appearance

4 winning seasons:
Cleveland (for a franchise that has a hard time even having a winning season they get a lot of pre season publicity about how they’ll be going to the postseason from the national media.) 2 Playoff Appearances
San Diego (all winning seasons came between 2004 and 2007) 2 Playoff Appearances

3 winning seasons:
Colorado (two of the last three years have been winning one’s) 2 Playoff Appearances
Detroit (three of the last four years have been winning one’s) 1 Playoff Appearance

2 winning seasons:
Montreal / Washington (both came when the franchise was in Montreal in 2002 & 2003) 0 Playoff Appearances
Texas (winning seasons in 2004 & 2009) 0 Playoff Appearances
Milwaukee (winning seasons in 2007 & 2008) 1 Playoff Appearance
Tampa (winning seasons in 2008 & 2009) 1 Playoff Appearance

1 winning season:
Cincinnati (only winning season came in 2000) 0 Playoff Appearances
Kansas City (only winning season came in 2003) 0 Playoff Appearances

NO winning seasons:
Baltimore (last winning season came in 1997. Current losing season streak stands at 12 years.)
Pittsburgh (last winning season came in 1992. Current losing season streak stands at 17 years, a major league record.)

13 National League teams made the postseason in the decade, 10 American League ones did. The Yankees and Red Sox accounted for 15 of the 40 available spots in the A.L. over the decade; 37.5%.

Finally the White Sox remain the only one out of the original 16 (pre expansion) teams to have never made the post season in consecutive years.
A.L. original teams: St.Louis/Baltimore, Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Philadelphia/Kansas City / Oakland, New York, Washington/Minnesota.
N.L. original teams: Chicago, Cincinnati, Brooklyn/Los Angeles, Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, New York/San Francisco, St. Louis.

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This is the monkey I really want the organization to get off its back. That's why I always chafe at comments like, "well, if they are just going to stumble into the playoffs and lose, what's the point?" The point is that you want to build a reputation for sustained excellence. I really thought 2006 was the year, but Buehrle picked a bad year to have his worst. That said, I would rather have our decade than Minny's.

It is difficult to argue against the thought that this has been the best decade in franchise history. Something to keep in mind when evaluating the overall records of KW and Ozzie.

37.5%? Yeah, there is no need to re-structure the financial makeup of MLB.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:11 AM
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Great summary, Lip. Thanks for posting this.

Yeah, no doubt money talks. Regardless of what the NYY/Bos unchecked spending apologist say, they have turned the AL into almost a two-team league with only teams that catch lightning in a bottle (like the 08 Rays) able to get past them. Despite what ESPN thinks, there is no way, this is good for the game. Once you get past NYY, Bos, and LAA, you have to drop all the way to 12th in MLB attendance to find the next best drawing AL team. Perhaps it's because, at least in the NL, many more fans feel their team actually has a chance at the post season.

Yeah, I know the Cubs and Mets spend money and "still suck"....that's the greatest argument of people who defend the Yankees/BoSox spending ways. But that still doesn't mean that the Yankees and Red Sox aren't buying their way to perpetual AL dominance. But, that's okay because Americans only care about these two teams anyway. Yes, I know the Red Sox are great at developing internal talent too, but it must be nice to be able to pour money into your scouting and farm system AND still have money to buy the free agents needed to put you over the top. Other teams with good scouting/farm systems just can't do that.....just ask the Twins and A's how many Commissioner Trophies they have this decade.

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wow, the Pirates have been really dismal for a long time ... and they were such a powerhouse back in the 60s and 70s, who could forget their comeback WS win (from down 3-1) over the Earl Weaver's favored O's
It's incredible that the O's have been that bad for that long. What a poorly run franchise! It's just stunning to see all the empty seats at Camden Yards nowadays. That park used to give the O's automatic huge crowds!

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3 winning seasons:
Colorado (two of the last three years have been winning one’s) 2 Playoff Appearances
Detroit (three of the last four years have been winning one’s) 1 Playoff Appearance

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It's incredible that the O's have been that bad for that long. What a poorly run franchise! It's just stunning to see all the empty seats at Camden Yards nowadays. That park used to give the O's automatic huge crowds!

Yes, sadly, Peter Angelos has single-handedly turned into mush this once proud franchise.
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Great info Lip, thanks for posting.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:38 AM
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Also....

The White Sox finished 111-68 against the Kansas City Royals this decade, good for a .620 winning percentage, their best record against any AL team in this decade. They also finished 111-69 against the Tigers from 2000-2009, which is good for a .617 winning percentage.

Their best overall record against any opponent since 2000 (with a minimum of 10 games played) was against the Cincinnati Reds. The Sox went 11-1 against them.

The team that seemed to beat the Sox more often than not was, you guessed it, the Oakland A's. They finished 33-54 against them in this decade, which translates to a .379 win percentage.

More here: http://www.baseball-reference.com/ga...&submit=Submit
So the Sox are basically .500 vs. everyone except Det and KC this decade. Well, if you're going to destroy teams, divisional opponents are the teams to destroy I guess.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:49 AM
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Sox should have tied the Twins with 8 winning seasons this year...sigh.
Division titles for the AL CENTRAL...
Twins -5
Sox - 3
Tribe- 2
Tigers and Royals....0 ...ouch.

Twins should have been contracted
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Sox should have tied the Twins with 8 winning seasons this year...sigh.
Division titles for the AL CENTRAL...
Twins -5
Sox - 3
Tribe- 2
Tigers and Royals....0 ...ouch.

Twins should have been contracted
This should have been:
Sox-4
Twinkees-2
Tigers-2
Tribe-2
Royals-0

Tigers fans must feel sick today. One of my best buddies is a Tigers fan. I haven't had the heart to even call him yet.
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Sox should have tied the Twins with 8 winning seasons this year...sigh.
Division titles for the AL CENTRAL...
Twins -5
Sox - 3
Tribe- 2
Tigers and Royals....0 ...ouch.

Twins should have been contracted
There's still time for this.
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Does anyone really care about "winning seasons?" Isn't this a relic of the old days when only 2 teams made the play-offs, so the other 14 had to find solace in something thoroughly meaningless? I guess would anyone have felt better about this White Sox season had they won 3 more meanigless games and finished 82-80? Or does anyone take pride in the 2004 White Sox, who finished 2 games above .500?
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Does anyone really care about "winning seasons?" Isn't this a relic of the old days when only 2 teams made the play-offs, so the other 14 had to find solace in something thoroughly meaningless? I guess would anyone have felt better about this White Sox season had they won 3 more meanigless games and finished 82-80? Or does anyone take pride in the 2004 White Sox, who finished 2 games above .500?
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