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Old 10-23-2008, 04:18 PM
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I'm not making "any judgement." I'm merely stating that I hope he learns to hit for average.
He knows how to hit for average. He hit for a pretty good one in the minors this season, if you were paying attention.
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Old 10-23-2008, 06:26 PM
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2-4 today. Now at .292. Hope everyone is happy he's hitting for average now.

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Old 10-24-2008, 07:05 AM
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What's the deal with Cole Armstrong. He's making a huge case to be the backup next year even if he does bat left-handed. But there I go making a judgment based on 20 or so AB...
I have no idea if he would be ready to be AJ's backup in 2009. All I do know is that although it would be nice to have AJ's backup bat right-handed, having two left-handed hitting catchers would open up other possibilities. Since there would be no reason to have them play based on the opposing pitcher, the Sox instead could have them play based on who the Sox pitcher is. For example, if Armstrong has a "strong arm" (get it? ), he might be a good match for the Sox starting pitcher with the greatest tendency to give up stolen bases.
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Old 10-24-2008, 12:55 PM
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He knows how to hit for average. He hit for a pretty good one in the minors this season, if you were paying attention.
Weren't you the jacknuts who said it was ridiculous to "make any judgement" on the kid, even after 200 AB? So you you crappin'?

Ultimately, we don't know if he can hit for average or not, as the sample size has been too small. Which, again, is why I stated that I hope he learns to hit for average.

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Old 10-24-2008, 12:57 PM
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2-4 today. Now at .292. Hope everyone is happy he's hitting for average now.

As Grebeck said, its a little ridiculous to "make any judgement" on the kid after 20, or 24, or 200 AB.

Here's hoping he can continue on this early trend. [Was that "judgemental," Grebeck?]

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Old 10-24-2008, 01:55 PM
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Weren't you the jacknuts who said it was ridiculous to "make any judgement" on the kid, even after 200AB? So you you crappin'?

Ultimately, we don't know if he can hit for average or not, as the sample size has been too small. Which, again, is why I stated that I hope he learns to hit for average.
Gotcha. Understood. My apologies.
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Old 10-25-2008, 02:40 PM
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2-4 today. Now at .292. Hope everyone is happy he's hitting for average now.

exactly - using AFL stats to draw conclusions is...well...unwise.
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:13 AM
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Gartrell separated his shoulder. Jordan Danks was added to the roster.
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:41 PM
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Danks had a monster game today going 4-4 with a HR, 3 RBIs, 2 R and a SB.

Beckham went 1-3 with a BB, an RBI, and 2 R.

Armstrong went 1-5 with a HR.

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Old 10-29-2008, 07:40 PM
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Danks had a monster game today going 4-4 with a HR, 3 RBIs, 2 R and a SB.

Beckham went 1-3 with a BB, an RBI, and 2 R.

Armstrong went 1-5 with a HR.
Behind Beckham, I'm mostly excited about Danks. Just cause it seems like he has a lot of upside, almost like a 5 tool player. I remember a couple years ago he was highly tauted. I know he's a good defender and is supposed to be good defensively and decent speed. Can he throw well? Hit for average? I would love for the sox to have a 5 tool player which they drafted.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:44 PM
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Behind Beckham, I'm mostly excited about Danks. Just cause it seems like he has a lot of upside, almost like a 5 tool player. I remember a couple years ago he was highly tauted. I know he's a good defender and is supposed to be good defensively and decent speed. Can he throw well? Hit for average? I would love for the sox to have a 5 tool player which they drafted.
From what I've heard, he's more four tool. He's the kind of guy that stat-guys as well as scouts are high on. The only reservation scouts have is that he won't develop power, hence the "four-tool" distinction.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...quests-part-3/

Scroll down for Danks. John Sickels is a fan of him as well, as he believes he'll make the show, regardless of a power surge. Sickels is a pretty damn good judge of talent.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:21 PM
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Behind Beckham, I'm mostly excited about Danks. Just cause it seems like he has a lot of upside, almost like a 5 tool player. I remember a couple years ago he was highly tauted. I know he's a good defender and is supposed to be good defensively and decent speed. Can he throw well? Hit for average? I would love for the sox to have a 5 tool player which they drafted.
Well, he did throw out a guy going to 3rd today.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:30 PM
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From what I've heard, he's more four tool. He's the kind of guy that stat-guys as well as scouts are high on. The only reservation scouts have is that he won't develop power, hence the "four-tool" distinction.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...quests-part-3/

Scroll down for Danks. John Sickels is a fan of him as well, as he believes he'll make the show, regardless of a power surge. Sickels is a pretty damn good judge of talent.
So who would be a comparable, Jacoby Ellsbury-like?
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:14 PM
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So who would be a comparable, Jacoby Ellsbury-like?
Ellsbury is much smaller. He's not short, but Danks, at 6'5", dwarfs him. Statistically, they're an interesting comparison. In college Danks struck out quite a bit more, but also walked more. Ellsbury had an OBP somewhat inflated by HBP.

All in all, Danks has so much more projectable power than Ellsbury.
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:58 PM
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My comp for Danks is reaching way back -- I say he's like Von Hayes.

I actually think some power will come which will make him a 5-tool player. Though I worry that he's going to have to make a lot of adjustments or he is going to strike out a lot.
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