Oney Guillen Appreciation Thread

[NLaloosh]

My sources are telling me that he'll be with the big league club next year.

He's going to be the translator for Harold Baines facial expressions and bodily noises.

[Optipessimism]

Originally Posted by NLaloosh

My sources are telling me that he'll be with the big league club next year.

He's going to be the translator for Harold Baines facial expressions and bodily noises.

So when Harold farts all Oney has to do is point to the bullpen. Sounds like an easy gig.

[Tragg]

There was no reason to draft Williams Jr 3 rounds too early. If he's interested in playing ball and not just his $500K bonus, then it could still work out okay.


But nepotism is nepotism - I see no reason to excuse it.

[UofCSoxFan]

Originally Posted by jabrch

Here's truth #3. It is far to early to conclude that KWJR is the same story. He was projected to go in the 8th round regardless. He is not some talentless stiff who was taken in the back end because of his dad.

I think people that lump KWJr and Oney together are completely missing that point. KWJr may or may not pan out but he was good enough to be recruited by Arizona State and then transfer to Wichita State...two of the best baseball programs in the country...I doubt KWSr had much say (if any) on that. If the Sox wouldn't have taken him, another team would have in the next 2 or 3 rounds at the latest. I also believe he was drafted out of high school, but could be wrong on that.

Oney played a North Park, a doormat in the CCIW, one of the tougher conferences in DIII. He put up mediocre numbers there and woudn't have been drafted by anyone. He played 2 years of professional baseball, however, and while didn't embarass himself, did nothing to justify his roster spot for that time frame.

They really don't compare at all.

[UofCSoxFan]

Originally Posted by Tragg

There was no reason to draft Williams Jr 3 rounds too early. If he's interested in playing ball and not just his $500K bonus, then it could still work out okay.


But nepotism is nepotism - I see no reason to excuse it.

Perhaps the reason the Sox "reached for KWJr" is that they were familiar with him. What I mean is, teams tend to like players they see a lot of for whatever reason (they also make an effort to see the players they like so it works both ways). This is why you'll see certain teams take an inoridnate amount of local kids. It's only natural, even if its on a subcocious level.

In the case of KWJr., he MAY have been drafted where he was b/c of nepotism but he may also have been drafted b/c the Sox really liked him and didn't want a team to take him before their next pick (keep in mind any team that liked KWJr. had to believe he was on the Sox radar so he may require a reach on their end).

With Oney, I'm 100% certain the pick was b/c of nepotism. I really think they are two different scenarios.

[jabrch]

Originally Posted by UofCSoxFan

I think people that lump KWJr and Oney together are completely missing that point. KWJr may or may not pan out but he was good enough to be recruited by Arizona State and then transfer to Wichita State...two of the best baseball programs in the country...I doubt KWSr had much say (if any) on that. If the Sox wouldn't have taken him, another team would have in the next 2 or 3 rounds at the latest. I also believe he was drafted out of high school, but could be wrong on that.

Oney played a North Park, a doormat in the CCIW, one of the tougher conferences in DIII. He put up mediocre numbers there and woudn't have been drafted by anyone. He played 2 years of professional baseball, however, and while didn't embarass himself, did nothing to justify his roster spot for that time frame.

They really don't compare at all.

Winnner!