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Old 04-21-2014, 05:26 PM
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Default Sale Start Pushed Back Update: Heading for the DL

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Sale sore. Prob not pitching Tuesday. More to come soon


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Similar to soreness for Sale two years ago. Muscular based soreness


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Rienzo could go Tuesday. Hoping Sale Wed but could be longer
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Old 04-21-2014, 05:27 PM
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Damn. Sale-Verlander would've been fun.
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Old 04-21-2014, 05:30 PM
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Old 04-21-2014, 05:46 PM
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Going 127 pitches vs Red Sox was too much. Our bullpen is going to kill our starters who try to extend.
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Old 04-21-2014, 05:57 PM
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Going 127 pitches vs Red Sox was too much. Our bullpen is going to kill our starters who try to extend.

Agreed...Way too many pitches this early in the season..!!
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Old 04-21-2014, 06:25 PM
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Dammit. I'm going tomorrow with a big group of Tiger fans. Was looking forward to seeing them go up against Verlander with the one guy they have who could match him. This sucks.

Why, Robin, why did you have him throwing 127 pitches in mid-April???
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Old 04-21-2014, 10:44 PM
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Going 127 pitches vs Red Sox was too much. Our bullpen is going to kill our starters who try to extend.
That one particular performance may not have caused the problem. The difference between going 105 pitches vs 127 is not that great when you consider the stress he's putting on his body in the type of games he's pitching on a consistent basis. It's probably something that's been building up over time. Either way, it is terrible news.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:03 AM
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That one particular performance may not have caused the problem. The difference between going 105 pitches vs 127 is not that great when you consider the stress he's putting on his body in the type of games he's pitching on a consistent basis. It's probably something that's been building up over time. Either way, it is terrible news.
This is the most sensible post I've read in this thread. And, realistically, if throwing 127 pitches, with minimal work out of the stretch is going to be a problem, and it only gets a pitcher giving up just one run through six innings, some of the blame has to go to the pitcher, who knew that to win the game he was going to have to go deep into the start after the 14-inning loss the night before.

I can't blame Ventura for bringing Sale in for the sixth. I don't know where, at what specific point in the sixth I can blame Ventura for not going to the overworked bullpen. And I'm not so sure Sale would have been better for it.

Striking out hitters can run up your pitch count. If that is going to be an issue relating to the health of your arm, you need to find a more economical way to get hitters out. In this age when pitchers pithces are being counted, I find I'm more impressed with pitchers who get outs to contact and go deeper in the game.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:12 PM
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Going 127 pitches vs Red Sox was too much. Our bullpen is going to kill our starters who try to extend.
During his last start, in the game thread, I stated that Robin is an absolute idiot for letting Sale go that long in a mid-April game. Sho-nuff here are the repercussions.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:19 PM
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Thank you, Rob-in! Clap! Clap! Clap, clap, clap!

*Yes, I know it is not all Robin's fault or anything, but he sure as **** isn't helping.

Also, brilliant idea tossing Rienzo out there yesterday when you knew you'd have to start him in a few days.
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Going 127 pitches vs Red Sox was too much. Our bullpen is going to kill our starters who try to extend.
127 pitches is just ridiculous. Ventura has been doing that sort of thing since day 1. Pitched Jones and Reed 5/6 days last year for absolutely no legitimate reason at all and nonsense like that.

I don't know why the Sox refuse to hire a real manager.
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Bring on Leesman. I'll take any LH pitcher since our pile of RH pitchers just suck.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:35 AM
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127 pitches is just ridiculous. Ventura has been doing that sort of thing since day 1. Pitched Jones and Reed 5/6 days last year for absolutely no legitimate reason at all and nonsense like that.

I don't know why the Sox refuse to hire a real manager.
But doesn't Don Cooper have a lot of say about the handling of pitchers?
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