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Old 06-19-2013, 11:36 PM
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Including tonight's loss, the Sox are now 29-40, for a 0.420 pace. Also including tonight's loss, the Tigers are 39-31 for a 0.557 pace.

If the Sox stay on their current pace, they project out to 68-94. In order for the Sox to finish at 0.500, they have to go 52-41 for the rest of the year, which would be a 0.559 pace - just a few points above the Tigers' current pace.
If the Tigers stay on their current pace, they project out to win 90 games. In order for the Sox to contend and also win 90 games, they would need to go 61-32 the rest of the way, a torrid 0.656 pace.

To recap, the Sox need:
Current pace 0.420 to finish 68-94 ( yay, they won't lose 100 games!)
Need a pace of 0.559 to finish 81-81 (yay, another non-losing season!)
Need a pace of 0.656 to finish 90-72 (It's gonna happen, to borrow a North side pipe dream)

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Old 06-19-2013, 11:41 PM
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I appreciate the research, but this Sox team has no chance to contend, even in this division. It's a horrible team. I wouldn't waste my time entertaining such delusions. This isn't a good team playing badly. It's just a bad team.
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:49 PM
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I appreciate the research, but this Sox team has no chance to contend, even in this division. It's a horrible team. I wouldn't waste my time entertaining such delusions. This isn't a good team playing badly. It's just a bad team.
When you consider how badly the Tiger's have underachieved, it really puts things in perspective. They've played about 6-8 games worse than they are, and they're still on pace for 90+ wins.
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Old 06-20-2013, 12:40 AM
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I think the Sox will have all they can do not to finish in last place. They may give the 1970 team a run for their money as to who will have the worst record.
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Old 06-20-2013, 12:48 AM
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Bad to say but at this point I hope they do finish like that to lock in a top 5 pick.
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:49 AM
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Bad to say but at this point I hope they do finish like that to lock in a top 5 pick.
Unfortunately, this may be the only silver lining of the 2013 season.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:52 AM
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I appreciate the research, but this Sox team has no chance to contend, even in this division. It's a horrible team. I wouldn't waste my time entertaining such delusions. This isn't a good team playing badly. It's just a bad team.
Agreed. ...and this bad team didn't just happen by accident. It took many years of bad trades and having a lousy farm system for them to sink to this level. There's really no point IMO in worrying about how many wins they need to catch up to Detroit.

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Bad to say but at this point I hope they do finish like that to lock in a top 5 pick.
That doesn't give me much comfort at all. It's not like the Sox have been masters at drafting players that turn into above average major leaguers.
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:01 AM
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When you consider how badly the Tiger's have underachieved, it really puts things in perspective. They've played about 6-8 games worse than they are, and they're still on pace for 90+ wins.
They're currently only 4 wins off their Pythagorean pace
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:58 AM
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Will this team lose 100?
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:45 AM
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I would assume that if the Sox are sellers, they very well could.
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:57 AM
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I appreciate the research, but this Sox team has no chance to contend, even in this division. It's a horrible team. I wouldn't waste my time entertaining such delusions. This isn't a good team playing badly. It's just a bad team.
I don't think SMO is saying the Sox can win it, he's just showing how bad off the Sox are.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:04 AM
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They are 5-16 since the Marlins series.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:25 AM
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They are 5-16 since the Marlins series.
Oof, and something like 7 of those games were with the Cubs and Astros.

Too bad.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:45 AM
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The Tigers know that they don't have to try until October. No one in this division is going to give them any challenge. Nothing about this Sox team suggests that they are going to turn it around. The most disheartening thing is the mental **** ups they keep committing.
I could handle it (which will be pretty likely in a few years) if they caught the ball, ran the bases effectively and moved guys over, but lost because they didn't have the talent. Now you don't have talent (save for Rios) and you're screwing up regularly, that's just more demoralizing.
But yeah, the numbers will probably carry over for the rest of the season.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:29 AM
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Oof, and something like 7 of those games were with the Cubs and Astros.

Too bad.
And adding the last two losses to the Twins, the Sox are 1-8 against three losing teams, two of them last place teams. I think that says it all.
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