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Old 05-24-2013, 02:12 PM
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Post Why Not a Six-Man Rotation?

Sale
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Danks
Quintana
Axelrod
Santiago

From what I've read, the cons of a 6-man rotation seem to be:
a. don't let your ace pitch so often;
b. mess with your bullpen;and,
c. weaken your bench.

But given the current situation with the Sox;
a. Sale might benefit from more rest (he just missed a start);
b. our bull pen is already unsettled;
c. well, you know all about our bench.

In addition, wouldn't Peavy and Danks benefit from some extra rest? I'm not a baseball expert like some other posters here, so I'm asking an honest question. I'd appreciate hearing the thoughts of others.
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Old 05-24-2013, 02:14 PM
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Sale
Peavy
Danks
Quintana
Axelrod
Santiago

From what I've read, the cons of a 6-man rotation seem to be:
a. don't let your ace pitch so often;
b. mess with your bullpen;and,
c. weaken your bench.

But given the current situation with the Sox;
a. Sale might benefit from more rest (he just missed a start);
b. our bull pen is already unsettled;
c. well, you know all about our bench.

In addition, wouldn't Peavy and Danks benefit from some extra rest? I'm not a baseball expert like some other posters here, so I'm asking an honest question. I'd appreciate hearing the thoughts of others.
I see this as a negative. The Sox need Sale and Peavy to pitch as much as they can this year to have a chance. Going to a six man would be reducing the amount of times they can help you win a game. I understand the point about Sale's health but it is hard to even say if giving him 1 extra day would save him from an injury.
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Old 05-24-2013, 02:20 PM
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I see this as a negative. The Sox need Sale and Peavy to pitch as much as they can this year to have a chance. Going to a six man would be reducing the amount of times they can help you win a game. I understand the point about Sale's health but it is hard to even say if giving him 1 extra day would save him from an injury.
That's generally my feeling, as well, not to mention the Sox bullpen is really thin behind Crain and Reed, I don't know if further diluting the talent is the right move. If Santiago (or Axelrod, I suppose) can pitch as well out of the bullpen as they have as starters, that gives the Sox 3 legitimately good arms in the bullpen and that is a nice luxury to have. If they had 1-2 more really dependable arms in the bullpen, maybe the 6-man rotation makes more sense, but as it is right now, I don't think they have enough to support a short-armed bullpen.

Maybe give a guy a spot start here and there during long stretches without days off to give guys extra rest, but going strictly 6-man, I think under utilizes your best pitchers and risk overtaxing your worst.
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Old 05-24-2013, 02:27 PM
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Maybe give a guy a spot start here and there during long stretches without days off to give guys extra rest, but going strictly 6-man, I think under utilizes your best pitchers and risk overtaxing your worst.
We may have to do this out of necessity, anyways. But what you all have said makes sense. I'm just a little worried about everyone holding up over the long haul given their past history.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:30 PM
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We may have to do this out of necessity, anyways. But what you all have said makes sense. I'm just a little worried about everyone holding up over the long haul given their past history.
No, I understand your concern, it's perfectly valid, but this is also the corner you paint yourself in when you play like **** for the first month of the season and bury yourself early. The Sox, unfortunately, don't have the luxury to not ride their best players now, they're in catch up mode. So you're kind of damned if you do or damned if you don't. But I think it's preferable that if you're going to go down, you do so with your best players contributing as much to the cause as possible (just my opinion).
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Old 05-24-2013, 05:06 PM
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We may have to do this out of necessity, anyways. But what you all have said makes sense. I'm just a little worried about everyone holding up over the long haul given their past history.
Please elaborate.

I don't know if you caught it or not. The Sox have probably the best head trainer in sports. They have been by far the healthiest MLB for well over a decade.
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Old 05-26-2013, 02:58 PM
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Please elaborate.

I don't know if you caught it or not. The Sox have probably the best head trainer in sports. They have been by far the healthiest MLB for well over a decade.
Maybe you did not notice Danks is coming back from major surgery, Peavy will always need to be treated with kid gloves since his own unprecedented shoulder repair. Meanwhile, Sale just missed a start 1/4 of the way into the season due to pain.
I think the 6 man rotation is a valid stategy to consider. Your Aces will not be throwing Wilbur Wood quantity innings and your #4-5-6 pitchers on this team could #2-3-4 on most others. And your aces won't be making any appearances if their bodily needs are not taken seriously.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:02 PM
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Sale
Peavy
Danks
Quintana
Axelrod
Santiago

From what I've read, the cons of a 6-man rotation seem to be:
a. don't let your ace pitch so often;
b. mess with your bullpen;and,
c. weaken your bench.

But given the current situation with the Sox;
a. Sale might benefit from more rest (he just missed a start);
b. our bull pen is already unsettled;
c. well, you know all about our bench.

In addition, wouldn't Peavy and Danks benefit from some extra rest? I'm not a baseball expert like some other posters here, so I'm asking an honest question. I'd appreciate hearing the thoughts of others.
If it was such a great idea, why don't other teams do it?
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:06 PM
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If it was such a great idea, why don't other teams do it?
Amen.

We ain't got six aces out there.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:26 PM
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Sale
Peavy
Danks
Quintana
Axelrod
Santiago

From what I've read, the cons of a 6-man rotation seem to be:
a. don't let your ace pitch so often;
b. mess with your bullpen;and,
c. weaken your bench.

But given the current situation with the Sox;
a. Sale might benefit from more rest (he just missed a start);
b. our bull pen is already unsettled;
c. well, you know all about our bench.

In addition, wouldn't Peavy and Danks benefit from some extra rest? I'm not a baseball expert like some other posters here, so I'm asking an honest question. I'd appreciate hearing the thoughts of others.
Because the Sox badly need a second left hander in the bullpen, that guy appears to be Santiago (short of a trade...)

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Old 05-24-2013, 07:28 PM
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Because the Sox badly need a second left hander in the bullpen, that guy appears to be Santiago (short of a trade...)

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Which is funny, because of Hector's screwball, he throws much more like a righty if you're looking at the splits.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:59 AM
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It's hard enough to get five pitchers decent enough to start.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:08 AM
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With the money paid to Danks and Peavy and their experience, they should be going no more than 5 days probably 4 but unfortunately those days are gone. Sale being young and the type of mechanics he has could maybe get extra time off occasionally. With 6 starters one can relief and be ready for a spot start, no need to ever go to 6 man rotation.
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:04 PM
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Personally, I think it would be a mistake to take Santiago out of the rotation. Dude's nasty when he's got his stuff working.
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