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Old 04-28-2013, 04:24 PM
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Default *Official* 4-28 Walks, errors, Axe yet another quality start; TB 8 SOX 3 Postgamer

Such a shame to continue wasting quality starts...
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:27 PM
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:29 PM
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4 games under with 15 out of the next 18 on the road, this isn't good.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:37 PM
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4 games under with 15 out of the next 18 on the road, this isn't good.
Talk about going from the frying pan and into the fire... Definitely a "character building" or "capitulating" next stretch.. We'll see.. Time to break out the Talismans...

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Old 04-28-2013, 04:43 PM
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Just saw this comment from Robin: "There are opportunities that guys need to take advantage of. If it doesn’t happen for us, there are other teams that are looking at them when they get opportunities.”

My impression is that Robin is preparing everyone for what could be (probably??) a fire sale come July.

Oh Heath also looks as bad as Septimo (and that's about as bad as you can get...)

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Old 04-28-2013, 06:21 PM
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:47 PM
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I know Hahn said "let's wait and see" in regards to a firesale but you really have to wonder if we need to move now before things gets worse. Floyd's value is already diminished. What if Peavy or Rios gets hurt? We are lucky enough to have a few guys that other teams might want so I hope we are least testing the waters.

The offense is one big mess. Not really set up to score other than homeruns, and there is no flow to it at all.

Maybe these 15 road games coming up will somehow be a positive turning point going forward. All we can hope for.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:52 PM
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:53 PM
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I know Hahn said "let's wait and see" in regards to a firesale but you really have to wonder if we need to move now before things gets worse. Floyd's value is already diminished. What if Peavy or Rios gets hurt?
Floyd's value is zero right now, Konerko will get hot in June then the phone will start ringing. Rios and Peavy are the only movable pieces right now.
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:20 PM
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I know Hahn said "let's wait and see" in regards to a firesale but you really have to wonder if we need to move now before things gets worse. Floyd's value is already diminished. What if Peavy or Rios gets hurt? We are lucky enough to have a few guys that other teams might want so I hope we are least testing the waters.
The maximum value in a trade would be obtained in a deal right before the deadline. With the extra wild card in play, it is entirely too early for any team to know where they stand. You are going to give Peavy away if you try to trade him now.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:27 PM
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Such a shame to continue wasting quality starts...
We're not a good baseball team. Simple as that. I don't think we're this bad, but we are certainly not good.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:29 PM
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I get we're not a great offensive team, but the defensive lapses are quite alarming.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:33 PM
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When you think about it folks this was pretty much a typical Sox performance this season:

Three lousy runs...
Six lousy hits...
Two costly errors...
12 more strikeouts...

Frankly I was shocked the Sox actually got three runs off Price considering they ran out a triple A lineup.

It is what it is and probably won't get much better even if the injured guys make quick recoveries.

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Old 04-28-2013, 05:37 PM
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When you think about it folks this was pretty much a typical Sox performance this season:

Three lousy runs...
Six lousy hits...
Two costly errors...
12 more strikeouts...

Frankly I was shocked the Sox actually got three runs off Price considering they ran out a triple A lineup.

It is what it is and probably won't get much better even if the injured guys make quick recoveries.

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Typical if you ignore the fact that Axelrod was even with Pirce after six. Price is a superior pitcher. He came into the game with an ERA infated by two rough games, particularly a 13-0 loss to the Indians in his second start, but he was the more skilled starter in today's game.

This was a game the Sox could have won and probably should have won, even with the score tied after six. Every loss but Saturday's on this homestand was lost by the bullpen, a couple with the help of defensive lapses. And the bullpen played a factor in Saturday's loss.

I think the game turned, no twith the game-tying home run against Axelrod, but with the line-drive double play. The Sox seemed to be getting to Price, who may have been in the game too long because he wanted to get his first win, which he couldn't get if he left with the score tied. If Flowers gets the ball though the infield, the Sox have a very good chance of at least pushing across a run. That woudl have been a different ballgame. I don't know if Ventura tries to get another inning out of Jones

If the Sox had the lead. If the game is tied late, you don't want to burn too many pitchers, and I can see how it's tempting to leave Jones in for another inning. He has such great stuff. Unfortunately, he is often behind in the count. While his stuff is good enough to pitch from behind in the count he isn't as effective after he puts runners on basse. I don't know if he tires after one inning, necesarily, althogh a couple of times this year he has had bad second innngs. It might be that he stiffens up on the bench or he loses his rhythm.

The game was still winnable when Thornton got Loney, but the error let it get away, reminiscent of a Rays win with Juan Pierre dropping a fly iin left a couple of Aprils ago. All hope seemed lost when Rios finished a brutal inning by grouning into the double play. Ventura putting in the pitcher who just got into town for the ninth to give up two more tells me he is concerned about overworking his bullpen.

Really, I think the Sox have a pretty good bullpen, but this weekend, this homestand doesn't back that up.
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:39 PM
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Ventura just has this habit of leaving these reliever in too long. Two days in a row 1 reliever essentially pitched us out of a game.

I don't Ventura has the stomach for what this season looks like it's going to be.
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