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Old 04-21-2013, 04:09 PM
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Default *Official* 4-21 Bullpen, Offense Betray Floyd; MIN 5 SOX 3 Postgamer

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At least it looks like I'll have plenty of time to write this summer.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:09 PM
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****ing joke letting Dunn bat in the 9th, again.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:11 PM
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Pretty meek 9th inning from your 3-4-5 hitters.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:14 PM
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When the bullpen turned south in 2007...well we all know how that turned out.

4 games under was our low point last season and it was in May so I'll cling to some hope that we can turn it around. Somehow.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:29 PM
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When the bullpen turned south in 2007...well we all know how that turned out.
That's the one barrier between this team and 2007: I don't see us stooping to the likes of Day, Bukvich and Myers (a 40 year old whom we inexplicably let pitch all September) not to mention MacDougal and his 2.0 WHIP.
On the other hand, that team had excellent years from Thome and Konerko..without which it would have won 60 games.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:36 PM
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2007 was also (arguably) the best year Bobby Jenks had. I think this is shaping up to be more like the beginning of 2009 where you know there are obvious holes, but they still get some things right.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:14 PM
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Yet another boring game. This team has no sense of urgency about anything. It's like it's resigned to its fate.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:18 PM
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We Stink!
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:18 PM
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Bad hitting.
Bad defense
Good pitching, except for that one pitch Crain threw to Willingham.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:19 PM
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Pretty meek 9th inning from your 3-4-5 hitters.
You are right about that. That was way too easy for the Twins closer. There was no suspense after the Twins went ahead. And I don't care about the homer. Dunn just isn't a major league hitter.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:26 PM
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****ing joke letting Dunn bat in the 9th, again.
No bigger a joke than letting him come up in the second, or, for that matter 2013, 2012 or 2011. It does no good having a left-handed bat in the lineup if his inability to hit righties is only exceeded by his inability to hit lefties. Really, if you were going to pinch-hit for Dunn, you should have done it in the fourth when he came up with two on and one out. If he hits it on the ground, it's a double play. Ventura started the runners t stay out of the double play and the strike out resulted in a double play.

Unfortunately, the White Sox don't have enough offense working to make up for a DH barely hitting .100 in the lineup, not if the other team is playing with a DH. Everyone but Konerko and Keppinger struck out at least once today, and it felt like more than 10 White Sox strikouts. Ultimately, hitting is about making contact, it's about putting the ball in play. Today, 20 Sox hitters put the ball in play, if you include the solo home run, and 10 failed to. The fact that it seems part of a trend is what makes it feel so unacceptable.

There were a few good things in the offense today. Twice Keppinger, who didn't strike out, got a runner in from third base and less than two outs to give the Sox the lead. Twice the Sox took advantage of mistakes, considering that De Aza earned his way on but got to third with the help of mistakes by the pitcher. That could have been enough to win.

But ultimately, what killed the Sox today was relief pitcher once again coming out of the bullpen unable to throw strikes. It was a problem Saturday. Really, it's been a bit of a problem all year, but the Sox have often been able to pitch out of jams, especially during the first homestand. And I really don't know what the problem is. They say that when a pitcher comes out of the bullpen, no matter who he is, you're never quite sure what he's got with his stuff and control. Sox relievers lately have been the antithesis of Dennis Eckersley with the A's in that you can count on them getting behind and walking hitters.

Put runners on base, start working with a smaller strike zone and hitters who put the ball in play will eventually drive in runs. And lose close games.

Maybe it's a mental thing. Reed came in and three nine strikes in retiring three hitters on nine pitches, perhaps seeing what the previous relievers were doing wrong. Maybe it's the cold weather.

I really hope it's the cole weather.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:41 PM
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Another day, another putrid offensive performance, another loss.

I know, I know, the bullpen blew it in the 7th inning but when the offense continues to score three runs or less, you put tremendous pressure on a pitching staff to be letter perfect, and that's not possible. The Sox offense is giving the pitching staff no room for error. None, nada, nyet.

10 more strikeouts today...five lousy hits.

That's nine losses in the last 12 games.

For the season the Sox have now scored three runs or less in 50% (9 of 18) of their games.

For the season the Sox are now 17-100 with RISP (.170 worst in the A.L.)

The only solace I can find is what the guy in the Sun-Times wrote this morning (paraphrasing) "It's hard to judge the Sox right now because they've played half their games in football weather..."

But honestly I don't see this bunch getting any better (or much better) even when the temperature hits 95.

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Old 04-21-2013, 06:16 PM
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The bullpen gave up one hard hit ball...that's when Crain threw a softball as his first pitch to Willingham.
Lindstrom walked one, who scored because of the Sox lack of defense: passed ball and poor right side defensive range.
Yea, they shouldn't walk anyone, but things are so precarious now that we demand perfection from them, which isn't realistic.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:34 PM
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The bullpen gave up one hard hit ball...that's when Crain threw a softball as his first pitch to Willingham.
Lindstrom walked one, who scored because of the Sox lack of defense: passed ball and poor right side defensive range.
Yea, they shouldn't walk anyone, but things are so precarious now that we demand perfection from them, which isn't realistic.
The bullpen also walked two guys in that inning- the leadoff man and our supposed loogie walked his only batter, AGAIN.

Let's not forget their first run was forced in on a bases loaded walk.

I am not looking for perfection. But I would like to see team that at least makes the other team earn a victory.

These two games this weekend remind me of the worst games vs this team under OG. Just awful.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:33 PM
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Good to hang out at the game with tebman, son of tebman and JB98. Aside from that, and a decent game from Floyd, pretty much a boring, uneventlful loss. This offense is awful while the defense has mostly been awful. Besides his homer, Dunn continued to be completely worthless. When Lindstrom walked the leadoff guy in the 7th, it felt like it was going to be over from that point.
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