Drill baby drill

[34rancher]

Anyone want to bet that gardenhire has his pitcher hit us in the first inning so that a warning is issued before we can retaliate for last night? I think it's brilliant as it gets in our head, protects his team, and makes us look like bigger pansies than we already are.

[Coops4Aces]

No warning will be issued if they hit us

[TDog]

Originally Posted by Coops4Aces

No warning will be issued if they hit us

Warnings don't have to be issued. If you hit a batter with your first pitch in the first inning and the umpire deems it intentional, he can eject you. The name of the pitcher and umpire escape me, but earlier this year, a pitcher was ejected in the first inning, perhaps with his first hitter, despite no warnings being issued. The warning business just makes it easier for umpires to do their jobs.

I didn't see the play everyone is talking about, but if the Twins are consistently intentionally going after White Sox players to intimidate them, I wouldn't have any problem with the White Sox inflicting a season-ending, even a career ending injury to Joe Mauer. That would certainly put them in their place. I certainly am not inclined to feel bad for Justin Morneau.

Of course, if major league baseball is interested in not seeing this get ugly, and the play in question Tuesday night was outside the boundaries and consistent with Twins intimidation, as some here believe, baseball would suspend Young from the rest of the games against the White Sox this season. There would be an appeal that makes that impractical, but perhaps baseball needs to give players choices, such as a monthlong suspension or a suspension against one specific team.

Assuming that there is really a pattern of systematic intimidation going on, it won't end until baseball does something drastic or until something ugly happens.

[getonbckthr]

I want Mauer to get run over with his ACL tearing in the process. I never wish serious injury to a player but lessons need to be learned up North.

[Coops4Aces]

Originally Posted by TDog

Warnings don't have to be issued. If you hit a batter with your first pitch in the first inning and the umpire deems it intentional, he can eject you. The name of the pitcher and umpire escape me, but earlier this year, a pitcher was ejected in the first inning, perhaps with his first hitter, despite no warnings being issued. The warning business just makes it easier for umpires to do their jobs.

I didn't see the play everyone is talking about, but if the Twins are consistently intentionally going after White Sox players to intimidate them, I wouldn't have any problem with the White Sox inflicting a season-ending, even a career ending injury to Joe Mauer. That would certainly put them in their place. I certainly am not inclined to feel bad for Justin Morneau.

Of course, if major league baseball is interested in not seeing this get ugly, and the play in question Tuesday night was outside the boundaries and consistent with Twins intimidation, as some here believe, baseball would suspend Young from the rest of the games against the White Sox this season. There would be an appeal that makes that impractical, but perhaps baseball needs to give players choices, such as a monthlong suspension or a suspension against one specific team.

Assuming that there is really a pattern of systematic intimidation going on, it won't end until baseball does something drastic or until something ugly happens.

Next time watch the play first. Career ending injury to Mauer? Suspend Young from Twins vs Sox games? Huh?

[dwitt76]

Wasn't he also the same guy who started yelling at his own pitcher last year when he got plunked by a Detroit pitcher.

[TDog]

Originally Posted by Coops4Aces

Next time watch the play first. Career ending injury to Mauer? Suspend Young from Twins vs Sox games? Huh?

Everything I wrote was conditional, given the worst that people are assuming. I specifically didn't demand Young be thrown at. I didn't need to watch the play to make conditional statements.

Suspending players against specific teams is done at the scholastic level for expediency, and baseball nip problems if they took a similar approach, although I don't know if the union agreement would allow it.

If the play made the White Sox players as angry as it made some of the fans here, it won't end with last night's game or the White Sox rolling over. It would end with someone getting hurt in a manner that falls outside the boundaries of hardball. And baseball should do something before it goes that far. Players get injured sneezing and celebrating home runs. Imagine what could happen in a serious brawl.

If the play was as bad as people here seem to believe, baseball should be proactive in seeing that nothing further happens.

I don't need to see the play to make such conditional statements.

[DSpivack]

Originally Posted by TDog

Warnings don't have to be issued. If you hit a batter with your first pitch in the first inning and the umpire deems it intentional, he can eject you. The name of the pitcher and umpire escape me, but earlier this year, a pitcher was ejected in the first inning, perhaps with his first hitter, despite no warnings being issued. The warning business just makes it easier for umpires to do their jobs.

I didn't see the play everyone is talking about, but if the Twins are consistently intentionally going after White Sox players to intimidate them, I wouldn't have any problem with the White Sox inflicting a season-ending, even a career ending injury to Joe Mauer. That would certainly put them in their place. I certainly am not inclined to feel bad for Justin Morneau.

Of course, if major league baseball is interested in not seeing this get ugly, and the play in question Tuesday night was outside the boundaries and consistent with Twins intimidation, as some here believe, baseball would suspend Young from the rest of the games against the White Sox this season. There would be an appeal that makes that impractical, but perhaps baseball needs to give players choices, such as a monthlong suspension or a suspension against one specific team.

Assuming that there is really a pattern of systematic intimidation going on, it won't end until baseball does something drastic or until something ugly happens.

I remember Buehrle getting ejected without warning a couple years ago, that ended his string of getting into the 6th inning in his starts.

[hawkjt]

The Twins hit Carlos twice last week,and at least 3 other Sox,with no retaliation by the Sox. Youngs swerve into the infield to try to take out AJ last nite was extremely dirty. Hunter putting Burke in the hospital using the same approach a few years ago went unanswered.
Padilla's hitting AJ a couple of years ago and yelling at him went unanswered.

Enough. I know it is meatballish,but I want my lb of flesh.
I hate to risk Gavin,tho,so I think just wait til Pena comes in,maybe...and throw right at Youngs head. I think he will charge the mound,and that will result in a long overdue brawl.

I know...stupid,right? Gotta stand up Sox. Would love to see Pena and AJ jump on a charging Young and kick the crap outta him...and let Mauer get hit also,please. Kubel,and Cudyar for good measure. Keep hitting them til they come out and get you.

[chisox12]

Originally Posted by hawkjt

The Twins hit Carlos twice last week,and at least 3 other Sox,with no retaliation by the Sox. Youngs swerve into the infield to try to take out AJ last nite was extremely dirty. Hunter putting Burke in the hospital using the same approach a few years ago went unanswered.
Padilla's hitting AJ a couple of years ago and yelling at him went unanswered.

Enough. I know it is meatballish,but I want my lb of flesh.
I hate to risk Gavin,tho,so I think just wait til Pena comes in,maybe...and throw right at Youngs head. I think he will charge the mound,and that will result in a long overdue brawl.

I know...stupid,right? Gotta stand up Sox. Would love to see Pena and AJ jump on a charging Young and kick the crap outta him...and let Mauer get hit also,please. Kubel,and Cudyar for good measure. Keep hitting them til they come out and get you.

It is time to stand up and stop dealing with this bull**** from the Twins. Obviously we can't be doing anything if it's a tight game. But if the situation presents itself, Mauer or Young should get one right in the ribs.

[pythons007]

If Floyd gets Span and Hudson out in the first. I want to see a Fastball in Mauer's something (knee, elbow, wrist). I want it to hurt, give them something to think about. Then when Young comes up, I want him drilled and for that matter, everytime he comes up for the rest of the series.

[Bob Roarman]

Originally Posted by hawkjt

The Twins hit Carlos twice last week,and at least 3 other Sox,with no retaliation by the Sox. Youngs swerve into the infield to try to take out AJ last nite was extremely dirty. Hunter putting Burke in the hospital using the same approach a few years ago went unanswered.
Padilla's hitting AJ a couple of years ago and yelling at him went unanswered.

Enough. I know it is meatballish,but I want my lb of flesh.
I hate to risk Gavin,tho,so I think just wait til Pena comes in,maybe...and throw right at Youngs head. I think he will charge the mound,and that will result in a long overdue brawl.

I know...stupid,right? Gotta stand up Sox. Would love to see Pena and AJ jump on a charging Young and kick the crap outta him...and let Mauer get hit also,please. Kubel,and Cudyar for good measure. Keep hitting them til they come out and get you.

You've given up the game of baseball if you go this route. I'm telling you that right now, if that's the route you want them to take, might as well call it a season. Because you don't care about winning games as long as you "prove something". Which is nothing.

[Lyle Mouton]

Again, lots of tough guys in here. Throwing at heads? Ending careers? Really?

Yes, I know the game used to be this way. Black people couldn't play for a time, and there was no such thing as free agency.

The game has gotten better. Not hitting guys in the temple with a 90+ MPH fastball is part of that positive evolution.

[twentywontowin]

Originally Posted by Bob Roarman

You've given up the game of baseball if you go this route. I'm telling you that right now, if that's the route you want them to take, might as well call it a season. Because you don't care about winning games as long as you "prove something". Which is nothing.

If anything, it could also be a turning point. Team comes together, we go on a tear.

I'm all for gunning one right at Young. Doesn't need to be a head shot, but he needs to know his **** won't be tolerated.

[dickallen15]

Originally Posted by Bob Roarman

You've given up the game of baseball if you go this route. I'm telling you that right now, if that's the route you want them to take, might as well call it a season. Because you don't care about winning games as long as you "prove something". Which is nothing.

Drilling Mauer may stop the Twins from taking liberties from White Sox players. Its not about proving anything. Its time for the Sox to stop getting hit by Minnesota pitching. Time for Minnesota baserunners to stop giving Sox catchers cheap shots. If it takes one to Mauer's ribs to get that to stop, and apparently doing nothing doesn't make it stop, then drill Mauer. Let Delmon Young know if he pulls something, Joey is going to pay. I guarantee Delmon or any other Twins player will not go out of their way to cheap shot a White Sox catcher anymore.