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Old 09-21-2009, 11:20 AM
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So, is it time to talk about Viciedo? Anyone actually seen him playing for the Barons? I know I was pretty excited but apprehensive when we seemed to have scooped him up despite the concerns other clubs had about him.

Here are his AA numbers: OPS .217/SLG .391 (ouch!)/.280 AVG/OPS .708...

Does he actually have 30 errors?

Hope he's not our future....
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:26 AM
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Just curious if you ever have seen him actually play?

Also, he's 19 years old playing in AA and still learning the language and the lay of the land in America.

I think it's WAY too premature to be writing him off as a bust.

Edit: Also post AA All-Star game he seemed to find more of a comfort zone and posted an .814 OPS including a .464 slg%.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:41 AM
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Everyone expected him to be like Alexei, but he's 7 years younger.

He's a raw talent investment. Youve gotta make those every now and then...even something like Joe Borchard was a bust that still had value several years into it.

Because he's so young, we can take a chance for a few years and then see if he still has intrigue for trading teams at that point. From what I read, his approach at the plate with two strikes is what he should be doing throughout the at-bats.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:49 AM
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Just curious if you ever have seen him actually play?

Also, he's 19 years old playing in AA and still learning the language and the lay of the land in America.

I think it's WAY too premature to be writing him off as a bust.

Edit: Also post AA All-Star game he seemed to find more of a comfort zone and posted an .814 OPS including a .464 slg%.
My friend is the play by play guy for the Mobile Bay Bears (who play the Barons a lot), and he said it's amazing how childish he acts. Throws his bat all around, throws his helmet. Glares at umps almost every chance he gets.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:53 AM
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2009 Prospect Duds: Dayan Viciedo
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:36 PM
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He's 20 years old and played his first professional year in AA. Give him more of an opportunity than just one year.

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My friend is the play by play guy for the Mobile Bay Bears (who play the Barons a lot), and he said it's amazing how childish he acts. Throws his bat all around, throws his helmet. Glares at umps almost every chance he gets.
That sounds like your average big league player to me.
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:04 PM
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My friend is the play by play guy for the Mobile Bay Bears (who play the Barons a lot), and he said it's amazing how childish he acts. Throws his bat all around, throws his helmet. Glares at umps almost every chance he gets.
He's also quite the drama queen. Fouled a pitch off his lower leg and took about 15 minutes to get up. I thought he had broke something. He took his position the next inning and if you hadn't seen his previous AB you'd never guess what had happened. That being said I am in no way writing him off. He showed me some plate discipline and some good instincts in the field despite the errors. I'd call him a diamond in the rough project that needs lots of work and more than a little maturing. At this point I would not call him a bust.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:28 AM
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He's also quite the drama queen.
Wow. He took a while to get up after fouling a ball off his leg. How can anyone argue against this much logic?

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At this point I would not call him a bust.
Anyone that does should just stop watching baseball.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:43 AM
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Wow. He took a while to get up after fouling a ball off his leg. How can anyone argue against this much logic?


Anyone that does should just stop watching baseball.
I'm assuming you weren't at the game in question. I have never seen anyone ham it up like Viciedo did. I'm sure it hurt and it stung. Baseballs do that when coming in contact with flesh and muscle. Viciedo is given to histronics of various types from time to time. All I was trying to say. That and I think he's not a sure bet but does have potential. I don't see why there should be a major problem.
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:35 AM
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My dad was in Jacksonville Fl a few weeks ago and saw the Barrons take on the Suns. He said that he has watched a lot of minor league baseball and thinks that Viciedo has a huge upside. He said that Dayan will be a good ballplayer, not to expect him to zoom to the majors like Beckham did, and he will make an impact at the major league level in one form or another.
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Old 10-18-2009, 10:45 AM
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He's playing in the Fall League and has posted an OPS of 1.0+ over his first 13 AB with a walk a homer, a double, 5 hits and 6 runs scored to go along with his 4 K's. It's obviously early and so are the offensive numbers are through the roof all across the board - Viciedo's OPS is only 16th in the league so far.

Good that he's playing though. Anything that furthers his development is a good idea.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:38 PM
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Just curious if you ever have seen him actually play?

Also, he's 19 years old playing in AA and still learning the language and the lay of the land in America.

I think it's WAY too premature to be writing him off as a bust.

Edit: Also post AA All-Star game he seemed to find more of a comfort zone and posted an .814 OPS including a .464 slg%.
Viciedo is 20. Has been since March.

He'll get moved to the outfield eventually. He can hit.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:48 PM
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Paying him the 10 mil is no different than drafting a highly touted player and giving him a signing bonus.
I'll hold of judgment on him until he has some more playing time under his belt.
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:33 PM
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Thanks for the info Voodoochile.....that makes me feel a little better....I haven't seen him play, I was wondering if anyone on the board might have had a look at him....

I hope he turns out well....
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:44 PM
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I was having this same discussion with someone else. What I believe is that sometimes you have to take risks like these, pay $10 million now in order to get someone who has the chance to be a stud at the Major League level. Dayan has a lot of talent, and I'm willing to give him more than one year to harness it. We gave Borchard, Fields, Anderson, etc. more than a year. Sure, we didn't spend that much on them, but we gave them all ample chances.

If in a season or two we don't see any growth, then start raising the questions of him being a bust. From what Voodoo pointed to, he has shown improvement already.
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