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Old 10-01-2008, 11:01 PM
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I've been meaning to do this since the minor league season ended, and since I'm too antsy waiting for the game tomorrow to do anything productive, here it goes.

First off, only two rookies made an impact at the Major League level for the Sox: Alexei Ramirez and Clayton Richard. While that isn't a ton of help from the minors, Ramirez should be at least the runner-up ROY, and Richard came out of nowhere to have a few nice outings. It should also be noted that none of the prospects the Sox traded in the offseason did much at the majors: Gio Gonzalez got raked (although he should still be good), Ryan Sweeney had a good average but less punch than, say, Dewayne Wise, Fautino De Los Santos was out with a career-threatening injury and Chris Carter had a nice if not spectacular season in Hi A.

Despite what appears at first glance to be a strong 2008 draft, the Sox still have to rank pretty low among talent compared to the rest of the majors. That being said, the top three hitters drafted (Beckham, Morel, and Danks) have potential and several arms (Nevin Griffith, Nathan Jones, Daniel Hudson, Dexter Carter) who could breakthrough in 2009.

1. Gordon Beckham, SS - the Sox best middle infield prospect since...Bucky Dent? Luke Appling? He should start at High A next year, and I am dying to see him and Alexei up the middle for years to come.
2. Aaron Poreda, LHP - Had a good season, although he did not dominate as it may be expected from someone with his size and stuff. At a bare minimum he should have a nice career as a LOOGY, with a #3 or #4 starter as his ceiling.
3. Brandon Allen, 1B/DH - Big dropoff here from the top two. Allen hit well in two pitcher's parks, was fairly young for AA, and even stole 17 bases. Next year should tell if he continues to improve or keeps his track as a AAAA/platoon type player. I think of Dan Pasqua when I see Allen, which admittedly is an imperfect comparison.
4. Chris Getz, SS/2B - He's gotten better every year and should be a solid bench player. Another lefty bat. His injury late in the season shouldn't affect him in 2009.
5. Brent Morel, 3B - Was seen as a bit of a reach at the 86th overall pick in the 2008 draft, but turned in a solid performance at Great Falls and Kanny. He got stronger as the season went on, finding his power stroke in the last few weeks of the season and displaying a good eye at the plate. Strong fielder.
6. Garrett Johnson, LHP - Stands 6-10 and is lefthanded. Hmmmm, who does that remind you of? Unfortunately he projects more as a left-handed Jon Rauch than a Big Unit, which still ain't too bad.
7. Dexter Carter, RHP - see below.
8. Dan Hudson, RHP - see above.
(seriously, Carter and Hudson both came from Old Dominion, were born six weeks apart, and are hard-throwing rightys. Thier stat lines at Great Falls: 6-1, 2.23, 68 IPs 25 BB 89 K; 5-4, 3.36, 69 IPs 22 BB 90 K. Carter is considered the better, although more raw prospect. No word if they room together on the road. Weird.)
9. John Shelby, OF - His stock dropped when his glove forced a move from 2B to the outfield. Did have a good season at W-S: .295/15/80 37 2B, 33 SB.
10. Nevin Griffith, RHP - The Sox 2nd round pick in 2007 has been brought along slowly but has a big league arm. Could rocket up this list in 2009, as could the next three players.
11. Jaun Silverio, SS - A terrible year, but his first and he was only 17 (cough, cough). He may have to move out of short.
12. Jordan Danks, OF - Could have been drafted in the first two or three rounds of the 2005 draft, but went to UT instead where he had a solid career, although his power never came around. Had a strong few weeks at Kanny to end the season. Good batting eye, speed, and solid D in CF in college. Brother of John Danks.
13. Jose Martinez, OF - Six-five, will be 20 at the start of next season. Hit .306 in limited action at Kanny.
14. Kanekoa Teixeria - Pitched well at W-S and B-ham. Middle reliever type.
15. John Ely, RHP - Good arm, poor results so far.
16. Leroy Hunt, RHP - If he gets control he could be a poor (and slightly thinner) man's Bobby Jenks.
17. Jack Egbert, RHP - Always lightly regarded despite impressive stats, injuries slowed him down this year. His peripherals were still good.
18. Gregory Infante, RHP - Great at Bristol, got lit up in Kanny.
19. Mike Grace, C - The closest the Sox have to a catching prospect. Don't get hurt AJ!
20. Tyler Kuhn, SS - Owned the Pioneer League to the tune of .375/.424/.570. Bats lefty.
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Old 10-02-2008, 07:29 AM
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I'd have to believe that John Shelby is higher than our 9th best prospect. But that's just me. I am intrigued by Kuhn, Carter, Hudson, and Allen, though.

PS Where's Jon Link?

Nice job Britt.
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:41 AM
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Can we hurry and trade them for something good
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:11 AM
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My top ten:

Beckham
Poreda
Allen
Getz
Richard
Danks
Egbert
Harrell
Shelby
Carter

Others I like: Hudson, Teixeira, Rasner, Morel, Link, Johnson, Hunt.

Really, really down on Silverio. First reports on him were awful. Plus the uncertainty regarding his age.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:59 AM
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Really, really down on Silverio. First reports on him were awful. Plus the uncertainty regarding his age.

Is this the first product of the Wilder scandal?
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Old 10-02-2008, 12:23 PM
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Is this the first product of the Wilder scandal?
Nothing's confirmed. I've read tidbits online that aren't worth much, but judging by the Wilder scandal as well as Silverio's lack of publicity this season, I think there may be something to it.
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Old 10-02-2008, 07:39 PM
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My top ten:

Beckham
Poreda
Allen
Getz
Richard
Danks
Egbert
Harrell
Shelby
Carter

Others I like: Hudson, Teixeira, Rasner, Morel, Link, Johnson, Hunt.

Really, really down on Silverio. First reports on him were awful. Plus the uncertainty regarding his age.
That's Mark Teixeira's brother right?
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Old 10-02-2008, 11:33 PM
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Nope, in fact our Tex spells his name Kanekoa Texeira as opposed to Mark Teixeira
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:46 AM
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I'd have to believe that John Shelby is higher than our 9th best prospect. But that's just me. I am intrigued by Kuhn, Carter, Hudson, and Allen, though.

PS Where's Jon Link?

Nice job Britt.
Shelby's relatively poor BB/K ratio has me worried he can keep improving as he progresses, and as mentioned him moving to left field puts a serious dent in his prospect status. That being said, I don't think it would be out of line to put him in the 5 or 6 range, before Carter and Hudson but after Getz.

As for Link, you are absolutely correct, I overlooked him. I'd put him after Teixiera maybe, who is younger but less polished.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:57 AM
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I've been meaning to do this since the minor league season ended, and since I'm too antsy waiting for the game tomorrow to do anything productive, here it goes.

Don't be ridiculous, Britt. This is extremely productive. Thanks for the effort!
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Old 10-02-2008, 07:15 PM
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I've been meaning to do this since the minor league season ended, and since I'm too antsy waiting for the game tomorrow to do anything productive, here it goes.

First off, only two rookies made an impact at the Major League level for the Sox: Alexei Ramirez and Clayton Richard. While that isn't a ton of help from the minors, Ramirez should be at least the runner-up ROY, and Richard came out of nowhere to have a few nice outings. It should also be noted that none of the prospects the Sox traded in the offseason did much at the majors: Gio Gonzalez got raked (although he should still be good), Ryan Sweeney had a good average but less punch than, say, Dewayne Wise, Fautino De Los Santos was out with a career-threatening injury and Chris Carter had a nice if not spectacular season in Hi A.

Despite what appears at first glance to be a strong 2008 draft, the Sox still have to rank pretty low among talent compared to the rest of the majors. That being said, the top three hitters drafted (Beckham, Morel, and Danks) have potential and several arms (Nevin Griffith, Nathan Jones, Daniel Hudson, Dexter Carter) who could breakthrough in 2009.

1. Gordon Beckham, SS - the Sox best middle infield prospect since...Bucky Dent? Luke Appling? He should start at High A next year, and I am dying to see him and Alexei up the middle for years to come.
2. Aaron Poreda, LHP - Had a good season, although he did not dominate as it may be expected from someone with his size and stuff. At a bare minimum he should have a nice career as a LOOGY, with a #3 or #4 starter as his ceiling.
3. Brandon Allen, 1B/DH - Big dropoff here from the top two. Allen hit well in two pitcher's parks, was fairly young for AA, and even stole 17 bases. Next year should tell if he continues to improve or keeps his track as a AAAA/platoon type player. I think of Dan Pasqua when I see Allen, which admittedly is an imperfect comparison.
4. Chris Getz, SS/2B - He's gotten better every year and should be a solid bench player. Another lefty bat. His injury late in the season shouldn't affect him in 2009.
5. Brent Morel, 3B - Was seen as a bit of a reach at the 86th overall pick in the 2008 draft, but turned in a solid performance at Great Falls and Kanny. He got stronger as the season went on, finding his power stroke in the last few weeks of the season and displaying a good eye at the plate. Strong fielder.
6. Garrett Johnson, LHP - Stands 6-10 and is lefthanded. Hmmmm, who does that remind you of? Unfortunately he projects more as a left-handed Jon Rauch than a Big Unit, which still ain't too bad.
7. Dexter Carter, RHP - see below.
8. Dan Hudson, RHP - see above.
(seriously, Carter and Hudson both came from Old Dominion, were born six weeks apart, and are hard-throwing rightys. Thier stat lines at Great Falls: 6-1, 2.23, 68 IPs 25 BB 89 K; 5-4, 3.36, 69 IPs 22 BB 90 K. Carter is considered the better, although more raw prospect. No word if they room together on the road. Weird.)
9. John Shelby, OF - His stock dropped when his glove forced a move from 2B to the outfield. Did have a good season at W-S: .295/15/80 37 2B, 33 SB.
10. Nevin Griffith, RHP - The Sox 2nd round pick in 2007 has been brought along slowly but has a big league arm. Could rocket up this list in 2009, as could the next three players.
11. Jaun Silverio, SS - A terrible year, but his first and he was only 17 (cough, cough). He may have to move out of short.
12. Jordan Danks, OF - Could have been drafted in the first two or three rounds of the 2005 draft, but went to UT instead where he had a solid career, although his power never came around. Had a strong few weeks at Kanny to end the season. Good batting eye, speed, and solid D in CF in college. Brother of John Danks.
13. Jose Martinez, OF - Six-five, will be 20 at the start of next season. Hit .306 in limited action at Kanny.
14. Kanekoa Teixeria - Pitched well at W-S and B-ham. Middle reliever type.
15. John Ely, RHP - Good arm, poor results so far.
16. Leroy Hunt, RHP - If he gets control he could be a poor (and slightly thinner) man's Bobby Jenks.
17. Jack Egbert, RHP - Always lightly regarded despite impressive stats, injuries slowed him down this year. His peripherals were still good.
18. Gregory Infante, RHP - Great at Bristol, got lit up in Kanny.
19. Mike Grace, C - The closest the Sox have to a catching prospect. Don't get hurt AJ!
20. Tyler Kuhn, SS - Owned the Pioneer League to the tune of .375/.424/.570. Bats lefty.
Charlie Shirek, Anthony Carter, and Jake Rasner would like to be on your list too. I think Rasner has a good shot of breaking out next year, ala Clayton Richard but as a better prospect. It seems we have quite a few decent prospects, but no real ace pitching prospect and only a couple position prospects with All-Star type ceilings (Beckham, Allen, and Martinez unless his injury takes him out of that category).

Don't know anything about Garrett Johnson, what does he throw?
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:37 AM
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Whatever happened to Kent Gerst(think that was name) He was highly thought of I thought going into this season.
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:51 AM
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Whatever happened to Kent Gerst(think that was name) He was highly thought of I thought going into this season.
Put up a decent line in Great Falls, should be in low A next year.
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:56 PM
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I don't see anyone in line to do much in 09 except maybe Getz.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:45 PM
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No, it's going to be a slow rebuilding process. Our organization was in shambles from 2005-2007.
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