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Old 12-03-2017, 08:24 PM
Andrew C White Andrew C White is offline
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Originally Posted by Grzegorz View Post
Right, You point out pitchers, the ones acquired via trade having a small sample size. Let's see what happens in the long run.

One would have to go back to 2010 to get decent 'Number of Pitches Thrown'. The team has mediocre 'Stolen Bases Allowed' and 'Caught Stealing' numbers back to 2008.
You are very much in the minority in your opinion of Cooper.

2010 - St. Louis Dispatch names Cooper one of the top five in the game

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...78c5f7062.html

2012 - Bleacher Report ranks Cooper #40 of All-Time.

http://www.bleacherreport.com/articl...es-of-all-time

2014 - Boston Globe ranks Cooper as 4th best in baseball

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2...QVM/story.html

2015 - Fangraphs shows him ranked second 1/100 of a percent behind the leader in fans opinion of pitching coaches

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/you-...ching-coaches/

As for the "small sample size" of last years young pitchers... It's actually pretty telling. Giolito was up and down all year in Charlotte but came up to Chicago and started pitching like the #1 pitcher he was previously thought to be. Fulmer was pretty bad in Charlotte and horrible in his first start but then settled down and put together some good starts.

Cooper has even managed to get successful innings out of guys like Hector Noesi and David Holmberg. Guys like Gregory Infante and Juan Minaya turned in decent jobs for Cooper after the bullpen was gutted. These guys are career minor leaguers. And that is not to mention Anthony Swarzak or Tommy Keenhle turning around and becoming ace performers once they started working with Cooper.

I don't know what you expect out of the guy but the White Sox have been pretty lucky to have had one of the best pitching coaches in the game for the last decade and a half and I'm hoping they remain as lucky for the next several years.
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