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Old 09-30-2013, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kittle42 View Post
From this thread, I have learned that the following people were basically useless and had little - actually nothing - to do with the performance of their teams:

Name Wins Losses Pct. 1 Connie Mack 3,731 3,948 .486 2 John McGraw 2,763 1,948 .586 3 Tony La Russa 2,728 2,365 .536 4 Bobby Cox 2,504 2,001 .556 5 Joe Torre 2,326 1,997 .538 6 Sparky Anderson 2,194 1,834 .545 7 Bucky Harris 2,158 2,219 .493 8 Joe McCarthy 2,125 1,333 .615 9 Walter Alston 2,040 1,613 .558 10 Leo Durocher 2,008 1,709 .540 11 Casey Stengel

Someone may call this hyperbole, but go back and read the posts. It's not. How nine of them are in the HOF is just mind boggling, apparently.
If it is a manager's fault a team went from leading the league in fielding to being in last place in fielding, and it has been pointed out the Sox doing it was the first time in almost 100 years it happened, the last team that did it was managed by Connie Mack, so he must be an awful manager.

Look at the career records of the managers in the HOF, and name one that didn't have some tough seasons. Then look at the Sox roster and explain how anyone could judge how good a manager is by this particular team's record. None of the guys on your list would have managed this team to contention.
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