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Old 04-12-2013, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SoxandtheCityTee View Post
I agree that something was probably said and that we won't find out what it was. Greinke is indeed a bit of a punk and isn't going to say anything that might chill the Righteous Outrage on his behalf and the sportsblabbers dumping on TCQ as a thug. If Greinke had rotated and lowered his shoulder a bit less maybe he sustains no bone break, and the conversation is different. Not that I'm blaming him for not knowing how to set up for a take down, but you can't judge what happened solely by the severity of the injury.
Yes and no. Obviously, the perception of this incident would almost certainly be different had Greinke not injured his clavicle, but that doesn't excuse Quentin's poor judgement in this matter. If Quentin walks to first base (as he should have), there is no altercation and no subsequent Greinke injury. There's also no follow-up incident between Kemp and Quentin that required police intervention to diffuse. Quentin's behavior set the stage for everything that followed his decision to charge the mound, including what happened to Greinke.

Originally Posted by SoxandtheCityTee
And speaking of how baseball is played, Greinke will have plenty of time to ponder that every now and then it does get a bit physical, that some risks maybe should be thought about. A person with anxiety issues can have bad aspects to their personality just as a person with anger issues can have good ones. I've never liked Greinke and Carlos remains something of a mystery to me. But there's blame to go around here.
I'd be careful making these types of statements. Are you implying that Greinke's anxiety played a role in his handling of this situation? Are you suggesting that Greinke's (alleged) throwing at Quentin was triggered by a behavioral problem? That's a slippery slope. It's also difficult to prove.

Originally Posted by Irishsox1 View Post
I don't think Grinke threw at TCQ on purpose, but once he hit him, TCQ stared him down and Grinke obviously told him something along the lines of shut up and go to first base. Add that in with the past history between these two and that's it.
Is there a camera angle that shows Greinke's face? I'd be interested in trying to determine what was said (if anything) to set Quentin off.
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