Originally Posted by doublem23
I think managers way back in the day had a lot more to do with the success or failure of their teams; a generation ago players weren't baseball players only, many of them supplemented their income with odd jobs during the off-season.
Nowadays, athletes are pro athletes and pro athletes only. These guys know their jobs, it's a managers job to put them in the best position to succeed, which I don't know that Ventura has done (he's made some pretty curious pitching and pinch hitting moves).
I think the difference between Sveum and Ventura is that Robin's roster is pretty much devoid of much up and coming talent, whereas Sveum had a couple of "superstars" in training in Castro and Rizzo who have, frankly, regressed.
That is the main difference, and right now, it's anybody's guess whether that was really Sveum's fault. I suspect he won't be the last manager who fails to reach Castro, but that's speculation on my part. It's possible the Cubs' front office just whiffed on their evaluations of Castro and Rizzo, and that they aren't really stars in training. If that proves to be true, it would probably shock the Chicago media world. Only time will tell. Really, the only young star the Sox have is Sale, and he is fulfilling his promise. Chris should have won 17 or 18 games easy with the way he pitched this year.