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Old 05-15-2013, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BainesHOF View Post
First of all, replays did not show that Flowers tagged Morneau. Perhaps he did. Maybe he didn't. It was a joke that Flowers allowed the play to be in dispute. Rios' throw had Morneau nailed...until Flowers looked like he missed him initially and then looked at the umpire to make the call while Morneau was busy touching the plate. Any catcher with a clue would have secured the ball in his glove with his other hand and dove at Morneau to tag him. It's basic baseball.

For whatever it's worth, Hawk and Stone did not think Flowers tagged Morneau and complimented the umpire for being in a great position to see everything. In any case, Rios' perfect throw was there in plenty of time...until Flowers failed in Catching Fundamentals 101. Even Stone, a former pitcher, knew a catcher should dive at the runner in that situation.

Second of all, Dunn's error was a season lowlight. It's pathetic that a Major League player does not take the field with a glove that works.

So, yes, a new low.
The plays you describe don't come close to being lowlights of this White Sox season in any case, unless you've been watching a different season. That would be the case even if the runner from the Dunn error (which doesn't come close to the sloppiest play I've seen at first base in the majors this season) weren't erased by the defense. Dunn isn't the first first baseman to miss a throw this season, and he won't be the last. A trait of teams with tight defenses is that they erase their mistakes, which the White Sox did tonight, even if they aren't playing tight defense this season.

As for the play at the plate, Flowers had the plate blocked, which is what many catchers are taught to do. There really is no one fundamental way to approach plays at the plate anymore because of recent collisions. But the runner can't score if the plate is blocked. Flowers had the plate blocked until after he appeared to tag Morneau and looks at the umpire for the out call. Usually when umpires appear to miss that call, it's because the fielder makes further attempts to tag the runner. Watch the replay on mlb.com with the Twins announcers. It seems very clearly a missed call. That also is what the MLB Network crew believed tonight as well when they discussed the play.

And even if those two plays did constitute exquisitely bad baseball, I don't think they bring the White Sox close to a baseball equivalent of Plan Nine from Outer Space. There was worse baseball being played in the majors tonight by the Giants in the first in Toronto, and they had the second best record in the National League coming into the game. And there was far worse baseball being played Friday and Saturday in Chicago against the Angels, if you want to talk about low points.
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