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Jason82807
04-01-2008, 03:47 PM
Soorry, the Sox just sent out an email. They said that for the whole season, all upper level ticket holders will have to stay in the upper level. I didn't think it would be a problem with the season ticket base shrinking.

BRDSR
04-01-2008, 03:54 PM
No longer a season ticket holder (moved away) and when I had them they were lower deck, but this is a lame move by the White Sox in my opinion. So much of the game experience is on the lower level concourse; season ticket holders should have access to it regardless of where their seats are.

Gammons Peter
04-01-2008, 03:55 PM
good, keeps the riff-raff away from me
:wink:

kninchicago
04-01-2008, 03:57 PM
Hmm. (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=99310)

It's Dankerific
04-01-2008, 03:58 PM
Soorry, the Sox just sent out an email. They said that for the whole season, all upper level ticket holders will have to stay in the upper level. I didn't think it would be a problem with the season ticket base shrinking.


:rolleyes: :gulp:

Jason82807
04-01-2008, 04:00 PM
NOT an April Fool's joke. I can forward the email to anyone upon request.

That and no smoking are the 2 big ballpark rules changes this year.

MCHSoxFan
04-01-2008, 04:02 PM
That sucks. Premium Upper Box seats are the best value. GREAT view and you could go to the 100 level if you want so it was like a lower box seat. Man, this really sucks.

kninchicago
04-01-2008, 04:03 PM
Upper Level Policy
For the safety and comfort of all our guests, we ask that our guests remain on the level of the ballpark for which they have tickets. Guests holding tickets for the Upper Level will not have access to the Main Level.

:tantrum:

Harry Potter
04-01-2008, 04:05 PM
Somebody email Brooks

chisoxmike
04-01-2008, 04:08 PM
NOT an April Fool's joke. I can forward the email to anyone upon request.

That and no smoking are the 2 big ballpark rules changes this year.

Why can't you just paste the e-mail in the thread? :scratch:

Jason82807
04-01-2008, 04:09 PM
well, now that I think about it, last year was the first year they expressly allowed UD season ticket holders to access the lower levels. In prevoius years, their official policy stated that moving down wasn't allowed but they "secretly" let season ticket holders do it anyway. This might be just an attempt to keep it in check. It is worth a shot.

Dan Mega
04-01-2008, 04:11 PM
well, now that I think about it, last year was the first year they expressly allowed UD season ticket holders to access the lower levels. In prevoius years, their official policy stated that moving down wasn't allowed but they "secretly" let season ticket holders do it anyway. This might be just an attempt to keep it in check. It is worth a shot.

Usually I just walk right past security and they do nothing about it.

Gammons Peter
04-01-2008, 04:11 PM
did they only send the email to upper deck season ticket holders? I have lowers and didnt get the email

MCHSoxFan
04-01-2008, 04:12 PM
well, now that I think about it, last year was the first year they expressly allowed UD season ticket holders to access the lower levels. In prevoius years, their official policy stated that moving down wasn't allowed but they "secretly" let season ticket holders do it anyway. This might be just an attempt to keep it in check. It is worth a shot.


Why would they just change it...now?!?!

Jason82807
04-01-2008, 04:13 PM
did they only send the email to upper deck season ticket holders? I have lowers and didnt get the email

No. I have Jim Beam Club. Email came from Maribeth Reese.

sox1970
04-01-2008, 04:15 PM
In my 2008 playI am using the tired, overused phrase "book it" because I actually have nothing interesting to say says that 100 holder can go to the 500 level and that 500 holders can go to the 100 level. 300 level holders can go to BOTH the 100 AND 500 levels.

Nice use of the filter. That's funny.

nug0hs
04-01-2008, 04:15 PM
What about club level stholders?

champagne030
04-01-2008, 04:15 PM
Usually I just walk right past security and they do nothing about it.

I believe that's the problem. They didn't police their old policy worth a damn, which led to continued complaints from lower-bowl ST holders about overcrowding. Makes my life better, but it does kind of suck for upper-tank ST holders.

MCHSoxFan
04-01-2008, 04:15 PM
did they only send the email to upper deck season ticket holders? I have lowers and didnt get the email

Guess not. Jason has Jim Beam Club tickets.

MCHSoxFan
04-01-2008, 04:16 PM
What about club level stholders?


Than can go to BOTH the 100 AND the 500 levels. It says this in the 2008 season ticket holder playbook. It says that 500 level ticket holders can go to the 100 and the other way around.

MCHSoxFan
04-01-2008, 04:18 PM
Nice use of the filter. That's funny.

Why did it do that? I wanted to say Season Ticket Holder Playbook. I had to rewrite 4 times!!! :angry:

It's Dankerific
04-01-2008, 04:18 PM
They should really just demand that the Upper Deck ticketholders wear a big scarlet UD on their chest.

chisoxmike
04-01-2008, 04:18 PM
They should really just demand that the Upper Deck ticketholders wear a big scarlet UD on their chest.

Why?

kninchicago
04-01-2008, 04:20 PM
I actually don't care that my ilk is no longer permitted downstairs. I have a good time in the UD.

i just wanted to post that cute tantrum tag.

peeonwrigley
04-01-2008, 04:24 PM
If true, this is pretty lame.

I don't like the congestion on the lower concourses when I go to games, but confinement to the Upper Deck for 81 or 27 games a year would truly suck if you paid for those tickets expecting regular access. The concourse up there blows (when compared to the lower concourse).

People with friends in the lower deck will still be able to skirt the policy pretty easily, at least.

jabrch
04-01-2008, 04:25 PM
Season Ticket holders in the 500 level still can go to the lower levels. Single game ticket holders can not. See you ST holder agreement for details.

It's Dankerific
04-01-2008, 04:29 PM
They should really just demand that the Upper Deck ticketholders wear a big scarlet UD on their chest.

Why?


I'm still assuming this is an april fools day gag.

if not, seems this rule treats the UD season ticket holders like second class citizens, and therefore, the scarlet letter reference.

nug0hs
04-01-2008, 04:30 PM
Season Ticket holders in the 500 level still can go to the lower levels. Single game ticket holders can not. See you ST holder agreement for details.

If you are correct then the originator of this thread is confused.

spiffie
04-01-2008, 04:33 PM
If you are correct then the originator of this thread is confused.
If he's correct, and it is a bad April Fool's joke, I'm pretty sure the elephant gun gets used.

doublem23
04-01-2008, 04:41 PM
if not, seems this rule treats the UD season ticket holders like second class citizens, and therefore, the scarlet letter reference.

Or... like people who paid for a seat in the upper deck.

:violin:

russ99
04-01-2008, 04:42 PM
I believe that's the problem. They didn't police their old policy worth a damn, which led to continued complaints from lower-bowl ST holders about overcrowding. Makes my life better, but it does kind of suck for upper-tank ST holders.

This wouldn't be a big deal if the UD had the same shops/concessions as the LD. Also, it seems to me the UD concessions close much earlier than the LD ones, like sometimes right at beer cutoff.

If the Sox came out a press release listing their reasons for this restriction, I'd have no problem at all. But, to me this will always be a dumb gut reaction by the Sox brass to the Ligue incident.

My only real complaint is comparing this policy to the old park, where fans could pretty much go anywhere... Kids today are being robbed of this wonderful experience.

twentywontowin
04-01-2008, 04:47 PM
If I can't go into the 100 Level, then I don't want 100 Level holders up in my 500 Level. Simple as that.

spiffie
04-01-2008, 04:48 PM
So has anyone else other than this one lone person seen this supposed email?

BRDSR
04-01-2008, 04:49 PM
Or... like people who paid for a seat in the upper deck.

:violin:

Valid argument for those who buy single tickets in the upper deck. Not valid for those devoted enough to use their limited financial resources to purchase 27 or 81 tickets before the first spring training game is even played. The kind of loyalty should be rewarded.

WS in 05
04-01-2008, 04:51 PM
Hi Brian,

Pleaes take a moment to look over some of the notes regarding Opening
Day.

Thanks and Go Sox!
Jeff

CHICAGO WHITE SOX OPENING HOME SERIES MEDIA ADVISORY

The Chicago White Sox are making the following recommendations to fans
attending Opening Series games against the Minnesota Twins:

- Opening Day, presented by U.S. Cellular, is Monday, April 7 at 3:05
p.m.; the second game of the series is Wednesday, April 9 at 7:11 p.m.;
and the series finale is Thursday, April 10 at 7:11 p.m.
- A capacity crowd is expected on Monday. Tickets for Wednesday and
Thursday are available at the White Sox box office at U.S. Cellular
Field, online at whitesox.com (http://whitesox.com/) or through Ticketmaster phone lines at (866)
SOX-GAME.
- The White Sox strongly recommend that fans utilize public
transportation. The CTA Red Line stops near the ballpark at 35th Street, and the
Green Line is two blocks further east at 35th Street.
- Gates to the ballpark open two hours before the start time of the
Opening Day game and one and one half hour before the Wednesday and
Thursday games.
- Parking lots open three hours before the start time of the Opening
Day game and two hours before the Wednesday and Thursday games. Fans
holding reserved parking coupons should display the coupons prominently as
they approach the ballpark.
- Prepaid red coupons are accepted in Lots A, B, C and G, and prepaid
green coupons are accepted in Lots F and L only. Cash parking will be
very limited when lots open (Lots G, F and L; Lot A in the early morning
only). Fans seeking cash parking should follow directional signs to
available lots. Cash parking is $22.
- Fans planning to park and take the CTA downtown to work in the
morning can park in Lot A (cash parking) starting at 6:00 a.m. This option
is for fans returning to the ballpark for the game. Lot A is
accessible from Wentworth Avenue between 33rd and 35th streets.
- Free shuttle service will be available on Opening Day from McCormick
Place (31st Street and Moe Drive).
- Fans holding tickets for the upper level will not be able to access
other levels of the ballpark this season. This policy ensures fans
safely and comfortably enjoy the game with access to the areas of the
ballpark where they bought tickets.
- In accordance with the new Illinois law, smoking is prohibited in all
areas of U.S. Cellular Field. There is a designated smoking area
outside of Gate 5.Those fans wishing to smoke must proceed to the ground
level at the base of the ramps at Gate 5.
- Magnetic White Sox season schedules from Pepsi will be given to all
fans at each of the first three home games, while car flags from U.S.
Cellular will be given to all fans at Monday's game.
- Alcohol cannot be taken from the park or consumed on public ways, in
observation of city regulations.
- Finally, the White Sox ask fans to be respectful of the neighborhood
and homes surrounding the ballpark before and after games.

WS in 05
04-01-2008, 04:52 PM
b.s!!!!!!!!!!

Jerko
04-01-2008, 04:53 PM
Rule looked the same as last year to me when I looked it up in the 2008 ST handbook. I'll go check my emails. I can't believe they would change it now.

Here it is right from the book:

Ballpark access

100 level ticket holders also have access to the 500 level

Club level ticket holders (300) have access to 100 and 500 level

500 level ticket holders also have access to the 100 level.

jabrch
04-01-2008, 05:16 PM
If you are correct then the originator of this thread is confused.

If I can't go into the 100 Level, then I don't want 100 Level holders up in my 500 Level. Simple as that.

b.s!!!!!!!!!!

Rule looked the same as last year to me when I looked it up in the 2008 ST handbook. I'll go check my emails. I can't believe they would change it now.

Here it is right from the book:

Ballpark access

100 level ticket holders also have access to the 500 level

Club level ticket holders (300) have access to 100 and 500 level

500 level ticket holders also have access to the 100 level.


The letter sent out today talked only about single game tickets. If you are a season ticket holder, you can get from 500 to 100. I already talked to my rep to confirm.

Please calm down...let's worry about all the other things that really suck about the Sox and about being a Sox fan and stop making up crap that doesn't exist.

LoveYourSuit
04-01-2008, 05:35 PM
Hi Brian,

Pleaes take a moment to look over some of the notes regarding Opening
Day.

Thanks and Go Sox!
Jeff

CHICAGO WHITE SOX OPENING HOME SERIES MEDIA ADVISORY

The Chicago White Sox are making the following recommendations to fans
attending Opening Series games against the Minnesota Twins:

- Opening Day, presented by U.S. Cellular, is Monday, April 7 at 3:05
p.m.; the second game of the series is Wednesday, April 9 at 7:11 p.m.;
and the series finale is Thursday, April 10 at 7:11 p.m.
- A capacity crowd is expected on Monday. Tickets for Wednesday and
Thursday are available at the White Sox box office at U.S. Cellular
Field, online at whitesox.com (http://whitesox.com/) or through Ticketmaster phone lines at (866)
SOX-GAME.
- The White Sox strongly recommend that fans utilize public
transportation. The CTA Red Line stops near the ballpark at 35th Street, and the
Green Line is two blocks further east at 35th Street.
- Gates to the ballpark open two hours before the start time of the
Opening Day game and one and one half hour before the Wednesday and
Thursday games.
- Parking lots open three hours before the start time of the Opening
Day game and two hours before the Wednesday and Thursday games. Fans
holding reserved parking coupons should display the coupons prominently as
they approach the ballpark.
- Prepaid red coupons are accepted in Lots A, B, C and G, and prepaid
green coupons are accepted in Lots F and L only. Cash parking will be
very limited when lots open (Lots G, F and L; Lot A in the early morning
only). Fans seeking cash parking should follow directional signs to
available lots. Cash parking is $22.
- Fans planning to park and take the CTA downtown to work in the
morning can park in Lot A (cash parking) starting at 6:00 a.m. This option
is for fans returning to the ballpark for the game. Lot A is
accessible from Wentworth Avenue between 33rd and 35th streets.
- Free shuttle service will be available on Opening Day from McCormick
Place (31st Street and Moe Drive).
- Fans holding tickets for the upper level will not be able to access
other levels of the ballpark this season. This policy ensures fans
safely and comfortably enjoy the game with access to the areas of the
ballpark where they bought tickets.
- In accordance with the new Illinois law, smoking is prohibited in all
areas of U.S. Cellular Field. There is a designated smoking area
outside of Gate 5.Those fans wishing to smoke must proceed to the ground
level at the base of the ramps at Gate 5.
- Magnetic White Sox season schedules from Pepsi will be given to all
fans at each of the first three home games, while car flags from U.S.
Cellular will be given to all fans at Monday's game.
- Alcohol cannot be taken from the park or consumed on public ways, in
observation of city regulations.
- Finally, the White Sox ask fans to be respectful of the neighborhood
and homes surrounding the ballpark before and after games.

I will assume this applies to opening day only.

WhiteSox5187
04-01-2008, 06:00 PM
I understand the logic behind it, but I'm kinda upset at this cuz as a season ticket holder (well, my family is) we tried to upgrade to get lower deck seats and we didn't get 'em, apparently they were sold out? I'm not sure. It was nice on those cold days in April though to have a five hundred level ticket and wind up sitting in the lower deck.

kittle42
04-01-2008, 06:03 PM
If I can't go into the 100 Level, then I don't want 100 Level holders up in my 500 Level. Simple as that.

Nobody wants to go up there. :D:

thomas35forever
04-01-2008, 06:04 PM
As a fan who normally only gets tickets in the UD, I've only been on the lower-level three times since they changed the name of the park. I've never been a fan of it, and I can certainly feel for those who are new to this.

Jason82807
04-01-2008, 06:07 PM
If I can't go into the 100 Level, then I don't want 100 Level holders up in my 500 Level. Simple as that.

Yeah, I hate it when those jerks in sec. 138 try to move to the sec. 555 seats.

btrain929
04-01-2008, 06:07 PM
Valid argument for those who buy single tickets in the upper deck. Not valid for those devoted enough to use their limited financial resources to purchase 27 or 81 tickets before the first spring training game is even played. The kind of loyalty should be rewarded.

Just buy single game tickets from a season-ticket holder. That's what I do :gulp:

btrain929
04-01-2008, 06:10 PM
I will assume this applies to opening day only.

Agreed, or opening series at worst.

ws05champs
04-01-2008, 06:22 PM
Hi Brian,

Pleaes take a moment to look over some of the notes regarding Opening
Day. . .

- Parking lots open three hours before the start time of the Opening
Day game. . .

- Fans holding tickets for the upper level will not be able to access
other levels of the ballpark this season. This policy ensures fans
safely and comfortably enjoy the game with access to the areas of the
ballpark where they bought tickets.

So has anyone else other than this one lone person seen this supposed email?

The E-mail I received said the parking lots open 2 1/2 hours before game time, said nothing about season ticket holders not getting access to the lower level and spelled "please" correctly.

Maybe they just don't want Ws in 05 in the lower deck and want him to think this applies to everybody so he doesn't feel so bad.:smile:

Jason82807
04-01-2008, 06:23 PM
Agreed, or opening series at worst.

Probably Cubs also, possibly Red Sox, but I can't see them enforcing this policy. Personally I think the ballpark looks better with a full lower deck, so why not let them come down?

Jason82807
04-01-2008, 06:24 PM
[quote=ws05champs;1836470]The E-mail I received said the parking lots open 2 1/2 hours before game time, said nothing about season ticket holders not getting access to the lower level and spelled "please" correctly.
The email I got said 3 hrs, but that might be if you have a pass.

jamokes
04-01-2008, 06:28 PM
Man, I would hate to be stuck in the 500 level all year!!

chisoxmike
04-01-2008, 07:08 PM
If I can't go into the 100 Level, then I don't want 100 Level holders up in my 500 Level. Simple as that.

No problem! :bandance:

Brian26
04-01-2008, 07:15 PM
Does this mean I can't go to the Club Level with an Upper Deck ticket anymore? :cool:

It's Dankerific
04-01-2008, 07:15 PM
Tickets are meaningless. They should have some big guys dressed sharp at the gates with a list. if your on the list or are a very attractive female, lower level, if not, up to the UD, if at all. Scout seats and Jim Beam can be reserved for the doormen's friends and people willing to drop a few franklins in their hands at the door.

Brian26
04-01-2008, 07:17 PM
Nobody wants to go up there. :D:

Other than the Scout Section, the best seats in the house are the first six rows in 533 and 534.

skobabe8
04-01-2008, 07:39 PM
This doesnt apply for ST holders. False alarm.

Elephant
04-01-2008, 07:39 PM
I like the UD because it allows you to get IF seats without season. So that way you can, you know, see the game. Why lower box way down the line is more expensive, I'll never understand, but I don't complain.

Jason82807
04-01-2008, 07:39 PM
Other than the Scout Section, the best seats in the house are the first six rows in 533 and 534.

Premium Upper Box seats are in my opinion the most underrated seats in the park, but far from the best.

skobabe8
04-01-2008, 07:48 PM
Other than the Scout Section, the best seats in the house are the first six rows in 533 and 534.

DAMN! I was in 533 row 7 last year. Just missed it! :D:

Now I'm in crappy 538 row 1. :D:

MCHSoxFan
04-01-2008, 07:50 PM
Other than the Scout Section, the best seats in the house are the first six rows in 533 and 534.

True! Best seats in the house= FRONT row Scout, Jim Beam and/or BOX528-536. For sure BOX531-533. However, IMO, Premium Upper Box seats are the best view and value all together.

jabrch
04-01-2008, 07:52 PM
I understand the logic behind it, but I'm kinda upset at this cuz as a season ticket holder (well, my family is) we tried to upgrade to get lower deck seats and we didn't get 'em, apparently they were sold out? I'm not sure. It was nice on those cold days in April though to have a five hundred level ticket and wind up sitting in the lower deck.

If you are a season ticket holder, this does not apply to you.

WS in 05
04-01-2008, 08:44 PM
The letter sent out today talked only about single game tickets. If you are a season ticket holder, you can get from 500 to 100. I already talked to my rep to confirm.

Please calm down...let's worry about all the other things that really suck about the Sox and about being a Sox fan and stop making up crap that doesn't exist.

The E-mail I received said the parking lots open 2 1/2 hours before game time, said nothing about season ticket holders not getting access to the lower level and spelled "please" correctly.

Maybe they just don't want Ws in 05 in the lower deck and want him to think this applies to everybody so he doesn't feel so bad.:smile:


yea but did they send this out to every Sox fan? Because I am a weekend ticket holder in the 500 level and love being able to go to the 100 level gift shop and cause a ruckus!!! also did not notice the misspelling.

doublem23
04-01-2008, 09:12 PM
I like the UD because it allows you to get IF seats without season. So that way you can, you know, see the game. Why lower box way down the line is more expensive, I'll never understand, but I don't complain.

They're popular because of the foul balls? :dunno:

ksimpson14
04-01-2008, 09:24 PM
a - Can we edit the title since this is BS (it's either meant for single game only, or was only meant for opening day)

b - Congestion my ass. It's fine down there. What do we need, individual tanning booths for all the lower deck people?

c - And I would like to say them not enforcing the policy has not been the experience with me. They've always checked me when I get UD tickets, and I went through a half hour-hour of hoops to get downstairs when they were TicketFast tickets, even after they confirmed they were ST with my having to give them the ST holder's personal information

champagne030
04-01-2008, 09:33 PM
b - Congestion my ass. It's fine down there. What do we need, individual tanning booths for all the lower deck people?


This would be false. Any game with 35K+ has the lower deck filled with douchenozzles that have upper-tank seats. And don't even think of using a restroom after the 4th inning because it's a minimum of 1/2 hour line, especially on the OF concourse. I use the Stadium Club, if I really need to go, on days with near capacity. I understand the vast majority of the problem is non-ST holders, but a problem still exists. I just wish they would enforce their stated policy of the past few seasons.

The Dude
04-01-2008, 09:38 PM
This doesnt apply for ST holders. False alarm.

Can a mod please change the title of this bull**** thread. Thank you kindly.:redneck I almost had a coronary reading the first few posts! :o:

The Dude
04-01-2008, 09:41 PM
a - Can we edit the title since this is BS (it's either meant for single game only, or was only meant for opening day)

b - Congestion my ass. It's fine down there. What do we need, individual tanning booths for all the lower deck people?

c - And I would like to say them not enforcing the policy has not been the experience with me. They've always checked me when I get UD tickets, and I went through a half hour-hour of hoops to get downstairs when they were TicketFast tickets, even after they confirmed they were ST with my having to give them the ST holder's personal information

A, I just replied before reading your post.

B, correct! Pdimas can vouch for me coming to lower tank whenever there are no-shows in his area. I don't do it for every game but I'd say a good 40% of em especially when the poster formerly known as Chips attends. :gulp:
C. Agreed. I have had other non-season tickets for a couple games because I took a group and pleaded with the guard that I am a season ticker holder blah blah, and couldn't get anywhere.

itsnotrequired
04-01-2008, 09:58 PM
A, I just replied before reading your post.

B, correct! Pdimas can vouch for me coming to lower tank whenever there are no-shows in his area. I don't do it for every game but I'd say a good 40% of em especially when the poster formerly known as Chips attends. :gulp:
C. Agreed. I have had other non-season tickets for a couple games because I took a group and pleaded with the guard that I am a season ticker holder blah blah, and couldn't get anywhere.

The Dude and Chips belong in the upper deck where they belong.

The Dude
04-01-2008, 10:35 PM
The Dude and Chips belong in the upper deck where they belong.

:rolleyes:
You belong in Rhinelander, WI. Go away Wisconsin boy.

Frontman
04-01-2008, 11:39 PM
Sheesh. Talk about a bad vibes, gang. I like UD tickets when I buy them.

Granted, I find it laughable that the very concept of someone walking around the concourse is offensive, but hey. UD tickets are cheaper for a reason.

But man, this wasn't all that funny of a joke. I thought season ticket holders (plus members of the Sox Pride club) can access the Concourse; but I guess I was wrong.

kaufsox
04-02-2008, 12:01 AM
This would be false. Any game with 35K+ has the lower deck filled with douchenozzles that have upper-tank seats. And don't even think of using a restroom after the 4th inning because it's a minimum of 1/2 hour line, especially on the OF concourse. I use the Stadium Club, if I really need to go, on days with near capacity. I understand the vast majority of the problem is non-ST holders, but a problem still exists. I just wish they would enforce their stated policy of the past few seasons.

being a douchenozzle resident of the UD, when the game is over 35,000, the whole park is a little more congested. The times I've sat downstairs, I can't say there has been a "problem." Well, except for the constant movement of people during the game.

chisox59
04-02-2008, 12:34 AM
As a fan who lives out of state I don't get many chances to come to a game and when I do the only tickets that seem to be available are in the upper deck. Two years ago when the Sox unveiled the Fox and Aparicio statues I wanted to take pictures of them but I was denied entry into the lower deck by security (I was able to sneak down after the game was over and accomplish my mission). I expect to run into the same problem this year when I attend since I'd like to see the Billy Pierce one as well as the new Harold Baines. The Sox Hall of Fame is also on the lower level. It makes it difficult to share my memories and love for this franchise with my kids (and now my grandson) without them being able to see these things. It doesn't seem fair to deny access to people to those areas since they aren't duplicated on the upper level. I'm sure the whole point of this is to prevent people from sitting in unoccupied lower level seats that they didn't pay for but that's gone on in every stadium that's ever been built and not all of us seat hop. It seems like some of these attractions need a compromise of some kind.

cws05champ
04-02-2008, 08:14 AM
As a fan who lives out of state I don't get many chances to come to a game and when I do the only tickets that seem to be available are in the upper deck. Two years ago when the Sox unveiled the Fox and Aparicio statues I wanted to take pictures of them but I was denied entry into the lower deck by security (I was able to sneak down after the game was over and accomplish my mission). I expect to run into the same problem this year when I attend since I'd like to see the Billy Pierce one as well as the new Harold Baines. The Sox Hall of Fame is also on the lower level. It makes it difficult to share my memories and love for this franchise with my kids (and now my grandson) without them being able to see these things. It doesn't seem fair to deny access to people to those areas since they aren't duplicated on the upper level. I'm sure the whole point of this is to prevent people from sitting in unoccupied lower level seats that they didn't pay for but that's gone on in every stadium that's ever been built and not all of us seat hop. It seems like some of these attractions need a compromise of some kind.
I fully agree....Just tell them that you are going to guest relations and or the window to purchase future game tickets. That may get you down there.

Jerko
04-02-2008, 08:18 AM
FWIW, before the UD policy was put into place, Saturday night games and Monday night games in the 100 level were like champagne030 said. Most of the problem on Saturdays was because the Sox blocked off half of the concourse for the fireworks, so everybody was jammed into the corner sections. Also, from what I've read, the POLICY IS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. Just be thankful they don't go back to the old way and block off the entire concourse unless you had a seat in one of those sections. Yep, you used to have to show your OUTFIELD ticket to get into the outfield area of the concourse. I don't know why this is a big debate every year; it could be worse.

salty99
04-02-2008, 08:24 AM
I always see people just running past the guards at the lower level and getting in. Also if there is a big group coming in at once they only check the first persons ticket and let everyone else thru. Yes security guy I AM indeed with the Japanese American group right in front of me!

Brian - No more club level for you my friend.

hanger
04-02-2008, 08:52 AM
you used to have to show your OUTFIELD ticket to get into the outfield area of the concourse.

Just to clarify. When the park first opened, there were blue "scissor" gates in the concourse on either side of the bleachers. Bleacher ticket holders could only use the outfield gates (not used any more) to enter the stadium, and they had to stay in the bleachers. The idea was that nobody would need to go in or out of that area from the concourse. I believe that they scrapped this before the second homestand of the year.

russ99
04-02-2008, 09:03 AM
I fully agree....Just tell them that you are going to guest relations and or the window to purchase future game tickets. That may get you down there.

No dice. They have those upstairs as well.

On a semi-related note, is there any official policy discussing if upper-deck single-ticket holders are allowed in the Bullpen Bar? I've always wanted to try that, but didn't get around to it yet.

soxfan21
04-02-2008, 09:07 AM
No dice. They have those upstairs as well.

On a semi-related note, is there any official policy discussing if upper-deck single-ticket holders are allowed in the Bullpen Bar? I've always wanted to try that, but didn't get around to it yet.


You just need a ticket to the game to get into the Bullpen Bar. If you get there early enough, and there is nothing special going on, you can sit outside right by the fence for an extra $15. Not a bad deal, and you really get an interesting view of the field from there as well.

salty99
04-02-2008, 09:07 AM
No dice. They have those upstairs as well.

On a semi-related note, is there any official policy discussing if upper-deck single-ticket holders are allowed in the Bullpen Bar? I've always wanted to try that, but didn't get around to it yet.


anyone can get into the Bar

voodoochile
04-02-2008, 09:09 AM
As a fan who lives out of state I don't get many chances to come to a game and when I do the only tickets that seem to be available are in the upper deck. Two years ago when the Sox unveiled the Fox and Aparicio statues I wanted to take pictures of them but I was denied entry into the lower deck by security (I was able to sneak down after the game was over and accomplish my mission). I expect to run into the same problem this year when I attend since I'd like to see the Billy Pierce one as well as the new Harold Baines. The Sox Hall of Fame is also on the lower level. It makes it difficult to share my memories and love for this franchise with my kids (and now my grandson) without them being able to see these things. It doesn't seem fair to deny access to people to those areas since they aren't duplicated on the upper level. I'm sure the whole point of this is to prevent people from sitting in unoccupied lower level seats that they didn't pay for but that's gone on in every stadium that's ever been built and not all of us seat hop. It seems like some of these attractions need a compromise of some kind.

May I suggest you check the Ticket Exchange forum here on WSI. You can even put up a thread with the dates you are looking for. I would bet almost all of the tickets sold there are season tickets and thus would include access to the lower deck (has that officially been decided yet?)

Since we don't allow scalping, you'd also get the tickets at face value. Might be worth a try and you might get the best of both worlds.

salty99
04-02-2008, 09:11 AM
Also the Sox Hall of Fame area is gone. Everything is in the Scout seat lounge area now.

Jerko
04-02-2008, 09:15 AM
No dice. They have those upstairs as well.

On a semi-related note, is there any official policy discussing if upper-deck single-ticket holders are allowed in the Bullpen Bar? I've always wanted to try that, but didn't get around to it yet.

You can get into the bullpen bar. They don't check your tickets until you get to the top of the ramp that lets off at the 100 level. Bullpen bar is ground level. Go right in thru gate 2.

Jason82807
04-02-2008, 09:15 AM
I apologize for starting this thread based on a misleading email. Mods please close.

jenn2080
04-02-2008, 10:15 AM
If I can't go into the 100 Level, then I don't want 100 Level holders up in my 500 Level. Simple as that.


Not a problem for me. I stay out of the Upper Deck as much as I can.


I'd be perfectly happy to keep 500 level people in the UD. It gets way to crowded in the 100 level.

itsnotrequired
04-02-2008, 11:28 AM
:rolleyes:
You belong in Rhinelander, WI. Go away Wisconsin boy.

THIS AGGRESSION WILL NOT STAND, MAN

voodoochile
04-02-2008, 11:30 AM
I apologize for starting this thread based on a misleading email. Mods please close.


Nah, but I'll move it and change the title for ya...

The Dude
04-02-2008, 12:35 PM
Not a problem for me. I stay out of the Upper Deck as much as I can.


I'd be perfectly happy to keep 500 level people in the UD. It gets way to crowded in the 100 level.

Hey now! I'm a 500 level holder and only come down when people tell me there are extra seats, which happens much more than not. Come on Jenn, don't make it sound like ALL of us are diseased. Just Miller and Chips.:redneck

Tekijawa
04-02-2008, 12:45 PM
I say if you want to sit in the lower bowl or come down and visit then pay the extra money per ticket, like I had to do. If they want to open the lower deck up to people from the upper deck then why should I pay extra? Might as well just make Season Tickets a flat fee no matter where you sit... Or give me field access so I can go down a level too.

I just read it's for single games, but I still feel this way...

The Dude
04-02-2008, 03:57 PM
I say if you want to sit in the lower bowl or come down and visit then pay the extra money per ticket, like I had to do. If they want to open the lower deck up to people from the upper deck then why should I pay extra? Might as well just make Season Tickets a flat fee no matter where you sit... Or give me field access so I can go down a level too.

I just read it's for single games, but I still feel this way...

Well isn't that a shame :rolleyes:

If I had tickets in the lower bowl, which I will in the near future when I finish grad school, why the hell would I care if the EMPTY seats are filled with some of the friends of the lower bowl ticket holders from the upper deck unless they are acting rowdy? For the most part and from the Sox perspective, they feel that if someone is dedicated enough to commit for a full season and read the fine print that allows them access if they choose to do so, they should and probably won't be a problem. Most stadiums allow people full access to the park even if they have UD tickets. But leave it up to some bitter Sox fans to bitch about something else.

pdimas
04-02-2008, 04:00 PM
Well isn't that a shame :rolleyes:

If I had tickets in the lower bowl, which I will in the near future when I finish grad school, why the hell would I care if the EMPTY seats are filled with some of the friends of the lower bowl ticket holders from the upper deck unless they are acting rowdy? For the most part and from the Sox perspective, they feel that if someone is dedicated enough to commit for a full season and read the fine print that allows them access if they choose to do so, they should and probably won't be a problem. Most stadiums allow people full access to the park even if they have UD tickets. But leave it up to some bitter Sox fans to bitch about something else.

You can sit next to Alina this year buddy!! I don't want your UD stink rubbing off on me :tongue:

DumpJerry
04-02-2008, 04:16 PM
Most stadiums allow people full access to the park even if they have UD tickets.
That might not be as true as most people think. I've read in the past when this issue came up that MLB has ordered some teams to have a UD/LD restriction for crowd control (not sure if the Sox were subject to it). I've been told by people I know who love the Blue Team, that you cannot access the UD at The Urinal unless you have a ticket for it. I suppose the UD at The Urinal is more desirable since concrete won't fall on your noggin' there.......

WhiteSox5187
04-02-2008, 04:20 PM
That might not be as true as most people think. I've read in the past when this issue came up that MLB has ordered some teams to have a UD/LD restriction for crowd control (not sure if the Sox were subject to it). I've been told by people I know who love the Blue Team, that you cannot access the UD at The Urinal unless you have a ticket for it. I suppose the UD at The Urinal is more desirable since concrete won't fall on your noggin' there.......
You're right, when I was an usher there we weren't allowed to let people with LD tickets to the UD. I don't know why. As I recall a lot of people were taking pictures.

It's Dankerific
04-02-2008, 04:21 PM
I know who love the Blue Team, that you cannot access the UD at The Urinal unless you have a ticket for it. I suppose the UD at The Urinal is more desirable since concrete won't fall on your noggin' there.......

Always better to be on the top of the rubble pile. I think about that everytime I'm visiting SF on the roadways... =)

The Dude
04-02-2008, 04:34 PM
You can sit next to Alina this year buddy!! I don't want your UD stink rubbing off on me :tongue:

That's fine, she's easier on the eyes anyhow! :gulp:

pdimas
04-02-2008, 04:40 PM
That might not be as true as most people think. I've read in the past when this issue came up that MLB has ordered some teams to have a UD/LD restriction for crowd control (not sure if the Sox were subject to it). I've been told by people I know who love the Blue Team, that you cannot access the UD at The Urinal unless you have a ticket for it. I suppose the UD at The Urinal is more desirable since concrete won't fall on your noggin' there.......


I had no problem getting into the UD on Monday at the urinal. I had to go up there to get away from the huge bathroom lines downstairs (figured out last year that the lines were smaller at the top of the ramps during the Wrigley Sox/Cubs series :cool:). Ridiculous. My buddies were in line for at least 40 min. I went upstairs waited in line for maybe 5 min. Thank god I only had a couple of beers at the game. There is no way I could have made it otherwise.

We had SRO tix but cause of the rain were able to find empty seats. I sat in some until the 2nd inning when the seats owners arrived. I asked politely if they minded if I sat until the rest of their group arrived and some hipster chick gave me the stink eye. Luckily some guy a fewer rows down said he had an extra and let me sit next to him (I was content to stand but my buddies all wanted to sneak into seats. I gnenerally don't do that kind of thing because i get tense and nervous but didnt exactly want to stand alone either so trolling for a seat i went). So I bought him a few beers to thank him. I for one never minded if someone was in my seat if there was room in our row (bleacher tix). It never made much of a difference to me. :gulp: Our row has been pretty empty a lot these past two years which surprised me considering we are 2nd row in the bleachers. Very often some of our UD ST buddies will come and sit by us just because of all of the room we have.